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Old 02-09-2005, 07:49 AM   #26 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by flstf
As I understand it, the proposal would still require SS to be a forced 12% savings plan. The only difference being that we could direct our FICA taxes to real (much better) investments and the funds would be held in our names until retirement age.

Out of curiosity, how much would one of these million dollar T-Bonds cost today for a 20 year old and how much are you proposing we pay back the government for buying it for us? Will these be interest free loans to be paid back over our working life?
Bush's plan I believe is allowing a pecentage to be invested, not all of it. I'm sure there would be fees, and brokerages involved. Plus, the companies are still matching funds.

As for a million dollar T-Bill that has a 70 yr. maturity rate, (given at birth), one does not exist now, but I'm sure a good economist that deals with hypotheticals like this may be able to play around and figure it out.

In my proposal we are paying back ONLY the principle, the amount it would take to invest for 70 yrs. to get a million back.

No, they are not interest free loans, they are the people working and paying off a guaranteed retirement system. Again, it's much the same as going to a bank and buying a cd. you pay $100 and 6mos. later the cd matures and you get $102 back (poor interest rates).

With the T-BIll you and the government would enter into a contract at birth which would say, "I will work and pay the principle and in return you will give me $1 million upon my 70th birthday in 20 installments so that I can retire in comfort." It erases having to pay into SS, or pensions plans (both of which are the same type of contract only NOT AS SECURE).

I'm sure though that if need be, the gov't could add a processing fee.

It's a win-win situation for everyone.

You would get a secured retirement that you paid for.

There would have to be far less government spending on retirees.

And again, companies no longer would have to pay SS or into pensions and therefore can use that money for more jobs and higher pay.
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