you all do realize that when employing an analogy that the two thing are said to be like eachother in a particular respect while dissimilar in all others... right?
analogy: Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
taking the analogy farther than its initial employment is to make an argument null.
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Originally Posted by raveneye
"Success" implies a goal. If you don't achieve the goal, then you have not succeeded. The goal was finding WMDs. No find, no goal, no success.
You seem to want to redefine "success" with your own terms. Sorry, I'm not game, any other terms than those above is just semantic dithering in my opinion.
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nope. i'm not using my own criteria and i'm sure as hell not using yours. i'll stick with the official list thank you very much.
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1) End the regime of Saddam Hussein.
2) Eliminate Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.
3) Capture or drive out terrorists.
4) Collect intelligence on terrorist networks.
5) Collect intelligence on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction activity.
6) Secure Iraq’s oil fields.
7) Deliver humanitarian relief and end sanctions.
8) Help Iraq achieve representative self-government and insure its territorial integrity.
this list was compiled from the secretary of defense's official statement on 21 March 2003 which can be found here
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according to our objectives... we have clear success in five of them, two are unabled to be measured by we on TFP (#'s 3 and 4), one was a failure.
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~ Winston Churchill
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