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irateplatypus · 02-08-2005, 10:08 AM

roachboy, host, c4... whoever else that doesn't get it yet. answer the following questions to remain on topic.

what did you think would happen with the events in iraq prior to the invasion?

how do the results you perceive since then compare to your prediction?

if the results are better than you expected (and there were many who expected catastrophic developments), from what vantage point do you continue to label the operation an abject failure if it has exceeded your expectations? i think the zeal to discredit Bush has clouded your perception of post-war iraq. some point to problems and love to assume that the presence of problems indicates a systemic failure rather than allow our operation the time necessary to combat them and judge the effort on its end result.

RB, i can't make it more clear. MY position isn't what i want to discuss. it is each individual's position that i'm inquiring about. how did YOUR expectation match your perceived level of progress? were your expectations justifiably realistic? again, your distaste of all things Bush couldn't be farther removed from relevancy.

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irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	roachboy, host, c4... whoever else that doesn't get it yet. answer the following questions to remain on topic. what did you think would happen with the events in iraq prior to the invasion? how do the results you perceive since then compare to your prediction? if the results are better than you expected (and there were many who expected catastrophic developments), from what vantage point do you continue to label the operation an abject failure if it has exceeded your expectations? i think the zeal to discredit Bush has clouded your perception of post-war iraq. some point to problems and love to assume that the presence of problems indicates a systemic failure rather than allow our operation the time necessary to combat them and judge the effort on its end result. RB, i can't make it more clear. MY position isn't what i want to discuss. it is each individual's position that i'm inquiring about. how did YOUR expectation match your perceived level of progress? were your expectations justifiably realistic? again, your distaste of all things Bush couldn't be farther removed from relevancy. __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill Last edited by irateplatypus; 02-08-2005 at 10:15 AM..