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Originally Posted by raveneye
If you go back and read my first post, you will see that I was not responding to you at all. I was responding to the idea of "race based affirmative action" which the article was specifically focused on.
You are simply wrong here.
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Your first post was ignored. The primary discussion in this thread was mine. Which was not exclusive to race. I am not wrong here.
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You questioned people's motives by bringing up the subject of "race" in this thread. In fact, "race" was inherent in the original article.
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As my discussion, which was the primary discussion of this thread, was not based on the article, and as my discussion was consistently responded to specific to race, my observation was entirely appropriate.
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Originally Posted by raveneye
OK, then it seems we have come to this wayside in the discussion.
If a race-neutral form of AA was implemented that, over time, basically equalized the socioeconomic status of the different "races," than according you we would still need AA in order to provide preference to "races" that have the lowest population density in those "fields."
So this leads to two very fundamental questions: How many "races" is one required to recognize in order to implement this AA? For example, are Aleuts a different race from, say Aztecs? From Missosukis? Are Egyptians different from Moroccans and from Haitians?
What if members of a particular "race" have never applied to a particular job in a particular company?
What if members of a particular "race" don't live near a particular company? Is the government required to keep detailed records of the race of individuals in different locales so that they can check whether they are being hired at the appropriate rate by local companies?
Are all "races" then subject to preference, if they are underrepresented in a particular field? If a small business in Atlanta has primarily "blacks" on their payroll (many exist), are they then required to institute AA in favor of "whites"?
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You want to nit pick it to death? Sorry, no, I'm not going to let you. All of those are good questions - but only questions that need to be addressed once everyone, you, are onboard with AA. But you are obviously not and instead intend your ultra-detailed questions pertainining to absolute specifics to be a means of dismissal.
I'm done discussing this into nonsensical circles with you because my next sentence would probably get me banned.