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Originally Posted by Manx
Yet none of those methods have addressed the essence of your first post - that gays are perverted and are attempting to have laws changed and should therefore not be allowed to marry.
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It's a matter of special privilege. The marriage laws are written in a non-discriminatory manner. Sexual orientation is immaterial. Any man (straight or gay) who is legally able to marry can marry any woman (straight or gay) that can legally marry and that agrees to it. There's been a long history of homosexuals who have done just that.....married people of the opposite sex, for whatever reason. Many of them have indeed had children as a result of the marriage.
Now if the law said "only straight men can marry women, as long as they are straight, too", THEN there's be a discrimination issue. But that's not the case.
Look at hate crime legislation. I don't support hate crime legislation. Why? Because who has ever heard of a "friendly crime"? ALL crime contains some element of hate, and setting one group or another up for special protection is discriminatory to those who don't receive the special protection. If somebody shoots somebody else because they are gay, how is that WORSE than somebody shooting somebody else in the course of a robbery? The act is the same, the result is the same. Now differences based upon means of death, I don't have a problem with. For example, being dragged to death behind a pickup truck by a rope around your neck is a far more heinous or infamous crime than shooting somebody in the head from behind, instantly killing them without their knowing that they were ever in danger. Both are murder, but the means in the first case are more horrific than the means in the second case. The level of suffering inflicted is far different. But if there were two cases where people were dragged behind pickup trucks by ropes around their necks, and one dead person was black and the other white, varying punishment based upon the skin color of the attacker IS discriminatory.