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Originally Posted by mrklixx
I don't understand this at all. Any literal interpretation used to prove a point is a "strawman attack"? But then where did you get the information that supports the following statements, if not from literal translation?
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You're misreading. When people use Fred Phelps, or other extreme viewpoints as a strawmen...When being the operative word...the response is usually sharp. I, and many others, are tired of our faith being defined by some unfortunatly famous haters.
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That's why I asked before, which parts should be taken literally and which parts shouldn't? Because it wouldn't do me any good to post scriptural references if they don't happen to be chapters/verses that you "believe".
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If you really think that i have my bible highlighted...you're oversimplfying things greatly. Read the text, discuss, read commentaries, discuss, pray, apply...that's how i test scripture in my life. What do you think should be going on? What does "beleive" mean anyways? You're using it to mean literal reading, if i interpret you right. Which makes the whole question bollocks. No text is self interpreting.
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I almost put a caveat in my original post about the "not perfect, just forgiven" line, but the I figured I'd wait to see how long it was until somebody used it. I didn't have to wait very long. Put it this way, an alcoholic that visits a bar every day, is not trying to live a sober lifestyle.
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That's an insult.
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Maybe I should have approached this from a different angle, since apparently contrary to the bible (depending on which verses one selectively believes", things like pornography, lust, fornication, etc aren't actually sins, then maybe I should ask what exactly does qualify as a "sin"? Or is the entire concept of "sin" one of those "literal translation faux pas"?
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Sin is violence, it is separation. It is what we do to harm other beings and ourselves.