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Old 02-05-2005, 04:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Rekna
Anyone who claims the bible to be the word of God and has studied the message of the bible cannot say it takes more than grace to be saved...
I guess that's why "some people say" (as they say over at Fox News )* that I'm not "Christian" since I'm "Catholic." As for me, I say bullocks.

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Originally Posted by Rekna
The book Galatians is directly about legalizing religion which is what so many people have done. There is not a score card to get into heaven, we don't get letter grades when we get there. Just remember the first will be last and the last will be first.
This much I can agree with you on. There is no scorecard. Much like there is no "rulebook." This includes the "believe in Jesus" rule. This idea was, of course, the primary argument by the Christian slaveholders as a justification for their actions. They "believed" and, therefore, had no need to concern themselves with the goodness of their actions, for they "believed" that Jesus died for their sins. Well, whether or not this is the intended conclusion of that concept is irrelevant - it is the *logical* conclusion.

Anyway, we could re-debate the entire reformation, or we could just agree to disagree on that topic. I vote for the latter.

* If you haven't seen the movie "Outfoxed," just ignore my Fox News comment
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