First off:
Kadath: how is my post a troll while the title (which wasn't even true) and the tiny single sentence used to start off this thread weren't? Someone please tell me what kind of discussion can be started in this manner?
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Originally Posted by CShine
OK KMA, here you go. DO NOTHING. THERE IS NO CRISIS.
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Now you are offering up something that I can respond to.
Frankly, I question this whole "no crisis" crowd that has cropped up overnight. If there isn't a problem with SS, why did we have the cnahges in the 80's? Why did Gore wanna put it in a "lock box"?
Those questions aside, I have two serious questions regarding SS that I would like answered (I have asked them several times before here, but nobody ever tries to answer them).
#1 - If there is not a problem with SS, please explain the payee/payor ratio. Why is it where it is? Where was it in the past? What is the history of changes to the ratio?
#2 - The graph for the ROI on SS looks like a guy jumping off of a cliff to the right. It is scary how sharp and massive the decline is. How can you say there isn't a problem when looking at info like this? If the ROI graph for SS was a sales graph for a large company, you would see everybody with a "C" in their title jumping off the roof.
I have much more to actually add to this discussion, but I would like to see how the 'no crisis" crowd answers these questions.