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CShine · 02-03-2005, 07:38 PM

OK KMA, here you go. DO NOTHING. THERE IS NO CRISIS.

We do not need to be leveraging ourselves into $1-2 trillion of new debt at the exact moment that we need to be spending enormous sums of money on Iraq.

Bush's SS plan is a scam because SS will not have any financing problems for many decades. This reform movement is driven only by conservative ideology and not fiscal pragmatism. It is incredibly ironic that the GOP postures itself as wanting to do this for the sake of the fiscal health of Social Security and yet they sit there with a straight face and tell us that they want to wreck our federal budgetary health now IN WARTIME just so we can fix some fiscal problems that forecasters say won't even crop up for at least 40 years. That's reckless and ridiculus.

Hardliners on the right have made no secret of their decades-old ideological dream of stripping down SS. Any truly level-headed fiscal conservative would instantly recognize that wartime, occupation, and reconstruction of an entire nation makes for the worst possible budgetary environment to reform gigantic social programs. It's really too bad that responsible fiscal conservatives have been pushed into irrelevancy by people who want to go with a max-out-the-credit-cards mentality.

Unfortunately, the conservatives who are driving this reform movement have no sense of pragmatism where it comes to the budget. They're doing it now because this is the first time they've ever had the power in both Congress and the White House and they're scared as hell that if they don't do it right away that they could lose power in one of those places and never get the chance to do it again. They don't seem to care about unsustainably high levels of debt. They only want to ram through their ideology this first chance they get.

Well sorry, I'm not willing to accept taking on trillions in debt for Social Security at the very moment we need tons of money for Iraq. That's just plain budgetary stupidity. Do first things first. Take care of Iraq and then take care of Social Security LATER because it is not in crisis now. IRAQ IS! I am not going to quietly sit by and watch the GOP wreck America's fiscal health just for their own personal ideological agenda. We literally have decades to address Social Security. We do NOT need to be doing it while we're in the middle of a wartime foreign occupation and reconstruction project on a scale not seen in more than half a century.

SOCIAL SECURITY IS NOT IN CRISIS!

02-03-2005, 07:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
CShine Crazy	OK KMA, here you go. DO NOTHING. THERE IS NO CRISIS. We do not need to be leveraging ourselves into $1-2 trillion of new debt at the exact moment that we need to be spending enormous sums of money on Iraq. Bush's SS plan is a scam because SS will not have any financing problems for many decades. This reform movement is driven only by conservative ideology and not fiscal pragmatism. It is incredibly ironic that the GOP postures itself as wanting to do this for the sake of the fiscal health of Social Security and yet they sit there with a straight face and tell us that they want to wreck our federal budgetary health now IN WARTIME just so we can fix some fiscal problems that forecasters say won't even crop up for at least 40 years. That's reckless and ridiculus. Hardliners on the right have made no secret of their decades-old ideological dream of stripping down SS. Any truly level-headed fiscal conservative would instantly recognize that wartime, occupation, and reconstruction of an entire nation makes for the worst possible budgetary environment to reform gigantic social programs. It's really too bad that responsible fiscal conservatives have been pushed into irrelevancy by people who want to go with a max-out-the-credit-cards mentality. Unfortunately, the conservatives who are driving this reform movement have no sense of pragmatism where it comes to the budget. They're doing it now because this is the first time they've ever had the power in both Congress and the White House and they're scared as hell that if they don't do it right away that they could lose power in one of those places and never get the chance to do it again. They don't seem to care about unsustainably high levels of debt. They only want to ram through their ideology this first chance they get. Well sorry, I'm not willing to accept taking on trillions in debt for Social Security at the very moment we need tons of money for Iraq. That's just plain budgetary stupidity. Do first things first. Take care of Iraq and then take care of Social Security LATER because it is not in crisis now. IRAQ IS! I am not going to quietly sit by and watch the GOP wreck America's fiscal health just for their own personal ideological agenda. We literally have decades to address Social Security. We do NOT need to be doing it while we're in the middle of a wartime foreign occupation and reconstruction project on a scale not seen in more than half a century. SOCIAL SECURITY IS NOT IN CRISIS! Last edited by CShine; 02-03-2005 at 07:48 PM..