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Old 02-03-2005, 02:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
El Kaz
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Originally Posted by asaris
Kant is actually infamous for not allowing *any* exceptions to the 'do not lie' rule.
Kant, like most philosophers, was aiming for an ideal, an Utopia.. if you open the door to exceptions, when do you close it? That's the problem with exceptions.

And on another note, when I say honesty and truth are important to me, I don't mean that any and all informations about everything and anything should circulate freely.
"It's none of your bussiness" or
"I don't want to talk about it"
are not lies, they're totally honest answers IF you're telling them to someone whom the information has nothing to do with.. basically, it's more of a matter of intentions than anything else.

Here's an example

Few years ago, I got dumped by the girlfriend I probably had the most trouble ever going over in my life. It was a blunt break-up too, I totally stopped seeing, talking to, or hearing about her immediatly after the break-up.
She got with another guy almost immediatly, but I didn't know of this. A group of common friends to me and her did know, though. They avoided telling me or talking about it when I was around.
Now if you look at it objectively, the information didn't have much to do with me.. not being with the girl anymore removed all my "rights" to know about her life. But the fact is, my friends knew that was something I'd have wanted to know about it, and intentionaly kept me from learning it, under the cover that knowing it would hurt me.
Fast forward almost two months, I'm still totally ignorant about the ex. We have a big project to go out with a large group of friends (friend of a friend of a friend, etc.), and of course, they avoid telling me if she'll be there or not, so I have to ask them directly.. the answer was "Not sure yet", untill the very last day before, during which my best friend came to see me, and just before leaving, he blurted out a "Yeah, she will be there, and huh.. not alone.. she's with (this guy), now."
Ow, yeah, kind of a hard blow and all.. but after thinking about it a little, I said "Wait a friggin' minute there", I realized it was doubtful that it was a new thing.
So I did my little investigation, and indeed, it wasn't recent, and indeed, everyone knew about it from that start cept good ole' me.
Am I needed to specify I was very, very, VERY pissed off about how the whole situation was handled? I was kept in ignorance, by MY FRIENDS, because they didn't want to "hurt me" ?

This, in my opinion, is how a "kind" lie hurts much more than truth, in the end.
As cliche'd as it may sounds, I prefer the quick pain of truth that goes away after a while than the slow, everlasting poison of lies.


Ok, I realize I kind of got carried away with this example, but the main point is, being honest doesn't mean being blunt and truthful about EVERYTHING, it means never lie, and don't hide informations from people you reasonably think they "deserve" to know, especially not under the cover of "not wanting to hurt them"
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