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Old 02-02-2005, 05:20 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by irseg
I used to work in tech support, I've talked to more than enough typical computer owners. I have no problem saying the majority of people who buy PCs got one (and usually the cheapest piece of shit they could find) so they could see what this newfangled "Internet" thing is their kids/grandkids keep talking about, or they need to have one for school/work, or they feel obligated because everyone else has one, etc. That's no insult to the countless people who are knowledgeable about PCs, that's just the truth. Just like how Apple specifically markets to people who think PCs are too complicated, and who want a cool-looking trendy computer that they can show off to their friends. Nothing against you and the many other genuine computer enthusiasts who happen to prefer Macs, it's reality.
I sold computers to pay my way through highschool and into college (I worked at Radioshack[ugh], Circut City, Fry's, CompUSA, and a few other places). Out of the possibly thousands of Macs I sold, I'd say maybe a dozen were to elderly people. The average person who bought a Mac was a student (late highschool to college). They wanted a machine that was had a simple interface, and could easily cover work, school, and play easily. They did want something that didn't look boring, but it was not as important as capability. I'm sure you didn't recieve help calls from the students because they simply didn't need any help.

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The Mac/Windows war will never end, but geez, you've got to admit that Macs have some significant weaknesses. I'm a huge fan of Linux for server applications, whereas everyone else at the company I work for thinks Windows/ASP.NET is the best thing ever.
Mac's weaknesses come from marketing in the mid 90s and price. Mac can't control who makes software fro them, but they try their best to have their own version that is just as good. The problem I have is that the average person perceives weaknesses where there aren't any. Macs can be modified. I can't tell people that enough. And I always have to prove it to them. It's annoying. Macs do have games. I've been playing Unreal on my comp for years. You yourself were surprised to learn that BF was available on MacOS. It's when others come to me complaining about Mac when I have to bring up the reality.

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So I know how it is to be in the minority and frustrated about other peoples' misconceptions. And I enjoy showing off how much traffic even a crappy Linux server can handle, and how everything just friggin' works, and that 99% of the time you can find an free open-source solution to do something that either costs a crapload of money or simply can't be done under Windows. But I'll readily admit that a Linux server is much more of a pain in the ass to set up from scratch compared to a Windows machine with no prior experience, or that it's pretty sad that ACL's are JUST NOW kind of coming into the mainstream under Linux whereas Windows has supported them for years, or that MySQL can't do things like views, stored procedures, etc. that MSSQL has been doing for over half a decade. Every platform has its ups and downs.
Give it a few years, I'll bet Mac is able to make something groundbreaking that blows ACL out of the water. It's happened before.
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