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Seer666 · 02-02-2005, 03:28 AM

I've read a few of the posts here. Don't really have time to read them all right now, but I feel the need to put in my 2 cents.

First, I do support the death penalty. I fully believe that sometimes, all it takes is one bullet to make the world a bit better place. Now, the problem I've seen with a lot of the points put out here, is that they focus solely on the rights of the individual. And this is good, the individual should have the right to pretty much what they want to, with in the limits they the actions they take are not harming another person. And I do NOT mean offending them with that statement. That is something people need to suck the fuck up. One of the down sides to being free is that people get to do things you don't like. Deal with it, or go elsewhere. Also, people bring up the whole "what about people who kill in war" argument. Doesn't fly. War has it's own rules. It is an extreme situation in which conventional thinking no longer works. That is why it is call war.

Now, while the individual should have the right to live their life in the fashion they see fit, they also have to remember that we are part of a civilized society, and as such, our actions have to be tempered to fit in, to a degree, with the lives of others. Once a person is no longer able to function in a given society, they become a drain on it. Now, in extreme cases, like mass murders and rapist, the best and only logical solution is to remove them. The easiest and cheapest method of this is too simple kill them. A person forfeits all rights to be treated as a part of the whole when they refuse to act like a part of the whole. Slave labor, entertainment, whatever. If they can be used, then use them, if not, kill them. And the whole cruel and unusual punishment thing is one of the few points of this countries views I've always disagreed with. By it's very nature, punishment HAS to be "cruel and unusual" to work. Someone robs a store, drag them out to Times Square and flog the holy hell out of them. When people see what will happen to them, they well think a little harder. While a mass murderer may still be human, it does not mean we should be inclined to treat them as such. If they are willing to take the action, they can also take the repercussion.

02-02-2005, 03:28 AM	#24 (permalink)
Seer666 Oh dear God he breeded Location: Arizona	I've read a few of the posts here. Don't really have time to read them all right now, but I feel the need to put in my 2 cents. First, I do support the death penalty. I fully believe that sometimes, all it takes is one bullet to make the world a bit better place. Now, the problem I've seen with a lot of the points put out here, is that they focus solely on the rights of the individual. And this is good, the individual should have the right to pretty much what they want to, with in the limits they the actions they take are not harming another person. And I do NOT mean offending them with that statement. That is something people need to suck the fuck up. One of the down sides to being free is that people get to do things you don't like. Deal with it, or go elsewhere. Also, people bring up the whole "what about people who kill in war" argument. Doesn't fly. War has it's own rules. It is an extreme situation in which conventional thinking no longer works. That is why it is call war. Now, while the individual should have the right to live their life in the fashion they see fit, they also have to remember that we are part of a civilized society, and as such, our actions have to be tempered to fit in, to a degree, with the lives of others. Once a person is no longer able to function in a given society, they become a drain on it. Now, in extreme cases, like mass murders and rapist, the best and only logical solution is to remove them. The easiest and cheapest method of this is too simple kill them. A person forfeits all rights to be treated as a part of the whole when they refuse to act like a part of the whole. Slave labor, entertainment, whatever. If they can be used, then use them, if not, kill them. And the whole cruel and unusual punishment thing is one of the few points of this countries views I've always disagreed with. By it's very nature, punishment HAS to be "cruel and unusual" to work. Someone robs a store, drag them out to Times Square and flog the holy hell out of them. When people see what will happen to them, they well think a little harder. While a mass murderer may still be human, it does not mean we should be inclined to treat them as such. If they are willing to take the action, they can also take the repercussion. __________________ Bad spellers of the world untie!!! I am the one you warned me of I seem to have misplaced the bullet with your name on it, but I have a whole box addressed to occupant.