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Originally Posted by raveneye
There is not a chance that the U.S. would have ever gone to war had we known then what we do now. Neither conservatives nor democrats would have supported it.
As Kerry said, it is the wrong war in the wrong place. Bush was wrong regardless of the outcome of the elections.
As most Europeans seem to understand better than the U.S., wars have a terrible human cost. They are justified only as a last resort, in response to an immediate, terrible threat.
Our soldiers exist to defend our freedom. Our soldiers are not Iraqis. They should not die so that Iraqis can have an election.
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So I suppose John Kerry was blowing smoke out of his ass back in 1998 in and around Desert Fox right? Oh and he didn't vote for Gulf War II either... Oh that's right he did, he voted for it, before he voted against it.
And God bless the Europeans and their governments. I can't imagine what type of place Iraq would be if had not been for them illegally enabling him for all those long years while his people suffered...
Also Charlatan, I think it's pretty ridiculous that you assert that preemption is immoral. One of a national governments, more importantly America's, main purposes is to provide for "common defence", at least that's what the constitution states. I would think that if down the line, the government had credible information to act on and didn't, and American citizens died, that would be immoral.