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jorgelito · 02-01-2005, 01:01 AM

I think we're clouding the issues:

I was/am against the war but I still recognize that the elctions are a success. You really can't deny it unless it's some really elaborate scheme involving a Hollywood shoot with a ton of extras in the desert.

You know, good for them, you can still applaud the success of an election while standing by your belief that the war was wrong. It's just different issues (unless you believe the ends justify the means which is dangerous and sKetchy policy).

There's no need for petty bickering, none of us truly know the answers or can predict the future. All we have are opinions and in this case (as in others) some of us were right and some of us were wrong in regards to certain elements). It doesn't mean one was right or wrong before or will be right or wrong in the future. Each case is independent of the other. Obviously there are many on this board who are divided ideology wise and politically. But that should not impede political discourse. It is good to stay on track and try to maintain the standard of discussion by using relevant material and backing up with sources.

So in sum:

The election went well. Yes, I think that's a cause that everyone can celebrate. But it doesn't neccessarily demean or counter Rdr4ever and Raveneye etc opinions per se. They had their opinion and you had yours. It appears that this time or in this instant that they were incorrect. Me too. I also thought the elections were going to be a fiasco (and same with many people) but it looks like I'm wrong here. NO big deal, I don't really have a problem with that. It doesn't mean that everything I say or all my opinions are wrong either.

In a weird way, I'm proud of the Iraqis for coming out and voting. All politics aside, I must say that I felt a twinge of emotion(especially as a proud American) when I read about the droves of people who came out and voted. It truly is an incredible process and I am always cognizant of the fact how precious the right to vote is. It looks like we could learn a thing or two about participation eh? Anyways, since they don't have Florida or Ohio, it looks like they'll be ok (Ha! I had to get that in there, LOL!)

02-01-2005, 01:01 AM	#80 (permalink)
jorgelito All important elusive independent swing voter... Location: People's Republic of KKKalifornia	I think we're clouding the issues: I was/am against the war but I still recognize that the elctions are a success. You really can't deny it unless it's some really elaborate scheme involving a Hollywood shoot with a ton of extras in the desert. You know, good for them, you can still applaud the success of an election while standing by your belief that the war was wrong. It's just different issues (unless you believe the ends justify the means which is dangerous and sKetchy policy). There's no need for petty bickering, none of us truly know the answers or can predict the future. All we have are opinions and in this case (as in others) some of us were right and some of us were wrong in regards to certain elements). It doesn't mean one was right or wrong before or will be right or wrong in the future. Each case is independent of the other. Obviously there are many on this board who are divided ideology wise and politically. But that should not impede political discourse. It is good to stay on track and try to maintain the standard of discussion by using relevant material and backing up with sources. So in sum: The election went well. Yes, I think that's a cause that everyone can celebrate. But it doesn't neccessarily demean or counter Rdr4ever and Raveneye etc opinions per se. They had their opinion and you had yours. It appears that this time or in this instant that they were incorrect. Me too. I also thought the elections were going to be a fiasco (and same with many people) but it looks like I'm wrong here. NO big deal, I don't really have a problem with that. It doesn't mean that everything I say or all my opinions are wrong either. In a weird way, I'm proud of the Iraqis for coming out and voting. All politics aside, I must say that I felt a twinge of emotion(especially as a proud American) when I read about the droves of people who came out and voted. It truly is an incredible process and I am always cognizant of the fact how precious the right to vote is. It looks like we could learn a thing or two about participation eh? Anyways, since they don't have Florida or Ohio, it looks like they'll be ok (Ha! I had to get that in there, LOL!)