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Originally Posted by biznatch
Last time I checked, I'm not "bashing America".
I don't feel superior to americans, almost all of my friends are americans. My gilfriend is american. I dont see your point. I don't find the jokes very funny, and yes, I do find them a little offensive. Well you see the thing is....I searched for a while for a place on the net where people can tolerate other people from other cultures without calling them pussies. And the tfp is that place...So yes I do think these jokes are offensive..
"Go hang out in a french forum where you can bash America" ???
I have better things to do...I don't know about french forums where people waste their time discussing the stereotyped flaws of americans. Although there might be some of those forums, I have no intention of finding one...
As I said before, the reason I like to talk in this forum is the open mindedness of it... And your allusions to "coffee shop", "sophisticated" and all of that gives the exact stereotype of a french person, and reflects your closed mindedness...
And I have yet to encounter a frenchman that goes to his "cafe" in the afternoon smoking his "Gitanes" cigarettes while philosophing about the stupidity of the actions of other people's govts...My french friends like to fuck around just like americans, or any other men of other nationalities
Your comment is even more offensive. I don't think I'm superior in any way. I'm a noob to this forum, just happy to be here...
But just because this is the comedy section doesn't mean you can bash and insult the shit out of a culture. I'd prefer you actually go in front of the embassy and burn their flag, at least you'd be saying loud and clear "I hate the french"
Whatever, dude.
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Obviously you don't have anything better to do- you managed to get even more offended by what I thought. And to be honest, I was actually specifically refering to intolerant Americans, who are usually the easiest offended. But I'm glad to learn from you that the French don't bash America. I'm sure you don't feel superior to all Americans (because of your friends and GF), just the ones who disagree with you- because of their closemindedness, right? I'm just wanting to make sure I'm getting it straight. Because your posts to this point have been pretty condescending "Well you see the thing is..."
I'm not saying I've been overly polite, but you seem pretty upset that I might have accused you of being closedminded yourself and intolerant of others' views...and I've noticed that whenever that comes up, your response has been "I don't see your point". My point is you've chastised me for what YOU'VE thought I think, thereby making yourself guilty of intolerance. But I guess that's just "reflecting my closedmindedness" again. You don't know me, remember that- you know nothing of me, my background, or experience, so you might want to think again about accusing me of being closemined, simply because I'm American and I like jokes...now who's being offensive...
For the record, I never refferred to a "cafe", that was you- I was very specific when I used the phrase "coffee shop"...and as far as "gitanes" go, I personally prefer Gaulois blondes (the first cigarettes I ever smoked). I never called the french "pussies"- that was you assuming you know what I believe and what I think simply because I enjoy a few jokes- I guess your openmindedness only goes so far.
You can still respect a culture and have a sense of humor. I've even laughed at German and Irish jokes, which puts me in a rough spot for two reasons; first, I'm both, and second some of the German jokes were in French. I've laughed at American jokes too. I'm in big trouble for that one.
I'm sure you would prefer that I go burn a flag- that way I would fit into your nice little stereotypical American category, but it doesn't work like that. Just because I laugh at jokes doesn't make me "hate the French pussies", I'm sorry, it just doesn't work that way. At least I admit that I can jump to conclusions- most humans do. And I take back what I said about wanting anyone to go into a french American Jokes forum...I wouldn't want you to ruin their jokes, too. But seriously, ask yourself...if you were in a French forum, would you be standing up as much for Americans?