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Originally Posted by willravel
Desipte the fact we weren't around for it, most people thought the french would never be able to overthrow the monarchy. Fallujah was openly in defiance of Saddam long before America decided to liberate them. Who are you to say tehy couldn't help themselves? Do you watch Fox News and sit back in your big chair and consider what you've seen? I was in Iraq and saw actual protests. That's right, protests. They were openly defying Sasddam. Guess what? None of them were gased. The police showed up and made their presence known (non-violent methods) and the crowd left. No blood was spilled.
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What happened to the Shiite's in the southern marshlands when they tried to revolt?
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I think you know that everything is relative. No country is perfect, and they all have some degree of coruption. Do you think the people on the streets of France and Germany protesting were trying to get oil?! I dare say the ignorance is on your side. As France, Germany, and Canada are better democracies than us, they are better represented by their people, in addition to their governments. What does your morality tell you about attacking Iraq?
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Evil is complacency in the face of evil. 25 million people are now free in Iraq because we took action, Saddam will no longer be able to indiscriminantly kill them again. Likewise, 28 million people are free in Afghanistan who were living under a repressive and illegitimate regime. No more public stonings for not wearing a burka or women trying to read at olympic stadium. More good has come out of our taking action in Iraq then the complacency of the world, which admittedly the US was apart of, for the last 13-14 years.
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If someone were to murder someone, they are found guilty on mevidence. We all know from those other posts you mentioned that these people cannot be found guilty, so they are heald indeinfatally without trial. The conclusion to draw form that is America believes that it's citizens are better than the other people of the world. We get to have a triel, but supposed enemies don't have to be proven guilty before we punish them.
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Wrong. Illegal combatants aren't afforded the rights of citizenship, they are forfeited. If you read the 14th amendment foreign citizens in our custody are afforded the same protection as American citizens. And you are right, enemy combatants are subject to Napoleanic law, that's because they aren't in custody of civil authority.
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In order to get these elections, thousands of Iraqi citizens die at our hands.
The Nazi party had the freedom to commit the holocaust. Where was the brilliance in that?
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So you're comparing the unforuante instances of collateral damage and the extremely rare cases of soldier abuse, which has gone punished, to the holocaust? Nice.