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Old 01-31-2005, 01:52 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ICER
However, it’s not considered a theft until you leave the property.
Screw that. It's not considered theft until I've stolen something. If I haven't, which is the perspective I think 99% of us are looking at this from, then I don't care what they think about when it is or is not theft. Especially if they don't have a reasonable cause to be suspicious of me.

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Originally Posted by f6twister
I know I don't steal and it isn't worth the fight when the laws in place already work against saying no.
That's actually one of the big reasons why I think it *is* worth it. So many situations that we have today came gradually thanks to people sitting idly by as their freedoms were stripped away one minute step at a time. Only by standing up to these gradual acts of disrespect can they be stopped or, at least, slowed down.

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Originally Posted by ICER
You are on their property. And its private property. They can ask you to leave; they can ask to search your bag
You've got the first half right. They can ask you to leave. However, once the sale is final (you've got a receipt by this point and the cashier has your money), that bag and its contents are YOUR property, not theirs. Thus, they do not have a right to search it, regardless of the fact you are on their property. As one person pointed out, they could tell you not to return, but I wonder 1) how likely that is and 2) how effective a store like Best Buy would be at enforcing such an edict.

And one other comment about the sign, I'm actually pretty *positive* that it doesn't mean anything. A contract, at least as far as I'm aware (and IANAL), requires a one on one agreement (remember, corporations are considered persons, so this is not an exception). The sign does not fall under the requirements of a contract and, thus, has no force of law.
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