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Originally Posted by K-Wise
[...] Be proud you listen to that shit and if they role their eyes at you and name names like Nelly and other rappers you no doubt hate for the lack of depth in their music drop some knowledge on them and put em in their place. Be like "Actually NO I don't listen to him..I listen to Dead Prez. You ever heard a them?" They say no you tell em then you dunno shit....Show them what you listen to. [...]
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I agree with your post on many of its aspects, but really, you dont think i've tried this approach? hahah, i get so tired of "explianing myself" to people
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Originally Posted by bollocks
[...] Oooh yeah I forgot, Twista can rap fast so that means he must be talented. [...]
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hahahaha
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Originally Posted by degrawj
[...] i like to listen to Japanese rap, [...]
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hrm, thats pretty interesting -- i've never thought about what exactly is
social, political, thought provoking, or lyrical in other cultures...
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Originally Posted by uncle_el
[...]if you're making music, and you're not making money, then you're underground... and thus certain people will accept you, and others won't have heard of you. if you're making musica, and you're making money, then you're commercial... and thus certain people will accept you, and others will have heard of you, but say you're whack or not real... [...]
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I definitely see your point, but i don;t think I can agree.
Talib Kweli, Common, Mos Def, and a few others have had pretty good commercial success. Nothing amazing [ie: 50cent style selling], but still respectable. They make great money, and some [especially Mos] have ventured off to do other "sell-out" type gigs [movies, TV, etc]. But the fact remains, that most of us in the HipHop community dont regard Mos as a "sell out." we still see him and the others mentioned as rappers who have there head on straight [much unlike j-kwon and chingy], and who are still making a lot of money doing it.
[and btw, i was cracking up your "game" comment hhahahahah]
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Originally Posted by IC3
Yes Mainstream hiphop is pretty much garbage, It's not about the love or the art of writing a good ryhme anymore..it's all money, Look at the pic posted above by bollocks.
I'm just happy there's still MC's out there being true.
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ImTech = amazing.
his theories might be far fetched at times, but still, interesting, entertaining, and mind blowing
also, that list you have in your second post is a great list
and i cant help to mention that Tech's '
devil' is definititely one of the most amazing tracks in the whole hiphop genre