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Old 01-26-2005, 06:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Justsomeguy
I don't understand his argument concerning health care and social security. The problem with social security has been escalating every year. I would assume a major reason for it is because the increase in average life expectancy. Social Security just needs to be re-evaluated by people that understand it. Politicians are not the people that understand the problem.

The same really applies to health care. No proposition has really attempted to tackle the current problems. I don't think you can really say Kerry or Bush had THE answer to health care problems. Not even a decent approach really. I also do not think anyone could really say the proposition by several democrats in '03 on health care were reasonable approaches. Again, politicans just are not going to solve the problems concerning the health care industry.

I just really do not understand why people treat these issues as though they derived from a particular president. Or why people think the president can solve these problems. To me, it's kind of like the unemployment rate. It's not even really related to the presidency, yet you always hear about how the unemployment rate is up or down with a particular president.

You are absolutley correct that neither of those the problems are the fualt of any president.
I'm a centrist democrat, and I was bothered a great deal by mr Kerry's suggestions of Universal healthcare.
Howver, fiscal responsability on the part of spend the government does control is basic common sense. I don't even see the need for social security for all if people wold actually have their own responsability to save. I'd even argue that it's existance lull's poeple into a false sense of secuirty on their own irresponsability. Most near 62 grew up in a time in this country when a job was decent pay, you could afford to buy a house and raise a family, afford two cars, and have health and savings from work. That they grew up with those options and still choose to spend more than they make is disgusting.

What the president can do, is cut benifits, impose sanctions on business's that help to add to the trade deficit, limit how many jobs a company can set as contract to avoid health and 401k with their employee's, and impose sanctions on conties that flood our market with goods (refered to as "offloading")
He can direct his party, which as the majority, to rein in new spending, and designate a portion of income to go towrds repaying current debt.
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