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Originally Posted by Hardknock
Agreed. Look where it got our "leader."
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exactly.
a c student at any college, getting into a business school, and it's at harvard?!?!?!?!? moving on to running oil companies (not much success there)... owning/managing a baseball team and trading away sammy sosa?!?!?!!?
things like this can and do occur in our society, but the opportunities are not there for everyone.
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Originally Posted by theusername
My opinion is that race should have no bearing on anything ever. This is the problem as i see it. Minority students are consistently put in schools that they don't belong in and arent as qualified. Pitting them against smarter white students. This only furthers the notion that they arent as smart. It is sad really that this problem hasn't been solved or well thought out.
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of course your statement presumes that minority students are consistently not as qualified and don't have what it takes. but then again, if you've never seen it, you wouldn't know.
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Originally Posted by Xell101
I don't think that these invisible barriers of racism are as prevelant as many believe, and therefore AA merely allows inferior candidates entry. If you're capable of entering on merit alone then all AA can do is bolster what will already suffice, if it proved necessary, you beat out superior competition due to race, and thats as good and right as AA.
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if you don't know the members of a given admissions committee, then you wouldn't know what barries, visible or invisible, that exist.
from personal experience, i'm one of a handful of african-americans in medical school at emory university. i graduated with a 3.6, had multiple acceptances into medical school. i was a part of the largest group of african-american students ever accepted to emory in 2000 with a group of 16 people (out of a class of 114)... yet people will claim that we were admitted to satisfy requirements and that we're not qualified to be at a top 20 medical school.
how long have african-americans been accepted into medical school at emory? 42 years (interestingly enough, the first african-american admitted into emory's medical school was also the first african-american admitted into the university of georgia). 42 years isn't a long time at all.
sadly, emory hasn't come close to eclipsing the number of 16 since that year.
who sits on the admissions committee/board? only one african-american
it's engendered in the history of the institution, and the barriers of acceptance are seen on the racial/ethnic make up of the admissions committee. combine that with the issues that emory university has had with admitting african-american and other minorites into it's undergraduate instituion, professorships, and other graduate school programs, and it becomes quite evident... it's a much harder struggle than you would ever imagine.
but of course, if you don't know, you don't know. and if you don't know, you can claim it doesn't exist.