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Old 01-25-2005, 01:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
CSflim
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First of all you use the words "perfect" and "imperfect" very frequenty and in extremely general sense, without any attempt to clarify their meaning. In what sense is an environment judged to be "perfect" or "imperfect", for example

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Originally Posted by MEAD
If human beings are imperfect it is therefore impossible for them to create anything that is perfect in our current state.
I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusion, but it does not follow from your premsies.


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Thus humans have created an existence that is imperfect. The theory of Darwinism would state that a creature is continually evolving to be fit perfectly for its environment.
As humans we have created our own environment that we are continually trying to evolve to fit perfectly in accordance with Darwinism. Since we cannot create a perfect environment for ourselves Darwinism will push us to be perfect for the imperfect environment we have made.
This will only be true if the selection pressure is high enough. For us in the developed world, I see very little selection pressure at all. Hence we are not evolving.
(Pretty much anyone who so chooses can raise a child. The cases where this is not the case are a)statistically quite small and b)usually down to random unfortunate events, so not neccessarily so based on genetics (rarely so, in my opinion).

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However if a great goal in humanity is to reach perfection or create perfection, there is room for this goal in Existential Darwinism.
Exactly what is Existential Darwinism?

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By creating an environment that is as close to perfect as possible, we will depend less on Darwinism to further humanity. Therefore we must strive to be perfect but accept that it will never happen and through this we will reach perfection.
I guess that I am just not hip or 'Zen' enough to understand what to make of a sentance in the form:
"we must accept that X will never happen, and by this X happens"

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It is acceptable to call this a form of Existentialism since reaching perfection is completed internally and not dependant on a higher being to insert it artificially.
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