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rb,
ahh... but i think you're twisting the issue... don't write me off just yet. the discussion (or, at least, my part of it) has nothing to do with whether or not any of moore's pose relevant questions to society. i only said that moore has a poor respect for the truth when convincing his audience and that it was sad that so many throw so much behind his causes when it's obvious he is a fraud in many ways.
in truth, i do think that roger and me as well as bfc are relevant to our times. i'm sure that my solutions to problems discussed in those films often differ from moore's, but that is besides the point. again, the mystifying thing to me is why he gets such rabid and widespread support from liberals around the world. i've not seen "control room", so i can't speak to how they presented the documentary. however, assuming it did a much better job than f9-11 at making its case... why is it that moore commands the power and money that he does while (supposedly) more sober/insightful productions languish?
the answer is that the moore crowd isn't interested in the truth, just like moore is not. moore is the pied-piper for the legions of those who thrive off the sort of self-satisfaction moore's films extend to the like-minded. that is why his indiscretions are discounted... not because of some imagined sort of greater good involved with the issues he treats, but because it's a more visceral reaction to his rhetoric and not an intellectual one.
so i won't throw the baby out with the bathwater. i will, however, condemn those who wrangle the truth to further their own agenda and line their own pockets. if we're really to solve these problems, we must get to the root of the issue. getting to the fundamentals of the problems demands that we must seek and value the truth. we do that by rewarding the truth-tellers and shunning those who place little value on it. a good first step for the country would be for those who agree with the more sober aspects of moore's philosophy to find a better champion for their cause.
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If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.
~ Winston Churchill
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