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I agree with filtherton wholeheartedly. Being a biologist myself, I find it easy to see how insights gained by unethical research preactices could be scientifically valid. I think the issue Locobot is raising concerns more of a general unethicality rather than a specific one. Let me elaborate...
I believe filtherton is trying to say that research that is unethical in its treatment of the subject, yet still adheres closely to the accepted standards of the scientific method and other defining, relevant scientific practices is still accurate in its findings.
I believe Locobot is questioning the integrity of the individuals who will carry out wuch research, implying that if they are willing to torture their subjects, it is also likely that they are willing to lie about their findings.
Did I get that correct, fellas?
...and Locobot, torturing a scientist to make him say what you want is not science; It is a biased for of interrogation at best, and therefore does not apply to the current discussion as far as I can tell.
I hope I managed to clear some things up.
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