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Old 01-24-2005, 07:13 AM   #35 (permalink)
Yakk
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Originally Posted by daswig
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Originally Posted by Yakk
I don't know if Ben Franklin was in favour or against A3S3 of the US constitution. And I'm not about to make shit up just to bolster my position.
So you're saying that Franklin OPPOSED ratification of the US Constitution?
Would you stop making up shit to support your position? You just quoted me saying I do not know if Ben Franklin was in favour or against A3S3 of the US constitution. As that is the only section of the US constitution we have discussed, why would you imply I believe he opposed the US constitution?

*sigh* Are you trying to be ridiculous?

You claimed to know he had no objections to it. I asked you how you knew this. Apparently the answer is telepathy:

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Originally Posted by Ben
The opinions I have had of its errors I sacrifice to the public good. I have never whispered a syllable of them abroad. Within these walls they were born, and here they shall die.
If he had objections, he wouldn't say them publically, based on his own words.

I don't know Ben Franklin's mind. I only quoted something he said.

There are at least 3 opinions on every fact.

I could believe the fact is true.
I could believe the fact is false.
I could believe I don't know either way.

When you claim something is true or false, and I ask for evidence, it isn't always because I claim the opposite.

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Originally Posted by daswig
It depends on how you oppose it. Voting against the war isn't treasonous. Adhering to the enemy IS.

Once again, we're looking at ACTIONS, not opinions. In my book, attending an International A.N.S.W.E.R rally, giving them money, or aiding them in ANY way is treasonous, since they are literally a thinly veiled front group for the enemy.
So, as long as you don't try to tell people you oppose the war (which is what an ANSWER rally is), you won't get hung for treason. Perhaps I misunderstand you: what is it about ANSWER rallies that makes those attending them deserve a firing squad? Possibly you know something about them that justifies this.

Would treason include voting against war spending bills? A congressman telling his constituants that he opposes the war? Refusing to buy war bonds on moral grounds? Preaching "thou shall not kill" is a commandment from the lord, and the lord's law is above man's law?

I'm just trying to figure out how many millions of American citizens you think should be slaughtered or imprisoned for political crimes.
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