Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community - View Single Post - Charleton Heston's "Columbine" Speech (The FULL Text).

irateplatypus · 01-23-2005, 08:33 PM

rb,

for the last time, i don't care what you think documentary means. you cannot expect someone to take your definition of a documentary while it is at odds with the dictionary definition. if we're to have any real discussion we must agree on the meaning of terms... i can think of no more authoritative source than the damn dictionary. petition the american heritage or webster versions to change it if you like. it's unreasonable for anyone to take a poster's word for a definition while the dictionary is clearly the opposite of what you claim.

are we confused on what it means to be on the right or left side of the aisle now?

which films that make similar arguments to moore's draw anywhere near the level of support from liberals? moore has an incredible following from his self-promoting propaganda enterprise... if his support doesn't come from the left where does it come from? even if you believe the role of a documentary is independent of issues of bias, why is such clout earned by a man whose tenuous hold on presenting things evenly is so obvious? if his points were able to be made convincingly without such antics, don't you think he would make them that way?

his support is undeniable... but it must be embarrassing that one of the biggest standard bearers on the left side is he. either they are blind to manipulation (and are unable to recognize and appreciate truth), or they recognize his failures yet are unable to find someone more fitting for their adoration (and dollars).

moore's poor treatment of heston is just a single example of his poor respect for the truth.

01-23-2005, 08:33 PM	#32 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	rb, for the last time, i don't care what you think documentary means. you cannot expect someone to take your definition of a documentary while it is at odds with the dictionary definition. if we're to have any real discussion we must agree on the meaning of terms... i can think of no more authoritative source than the damn dictionary. petition the american heritage or webster versions to change it if you like. it's unreasonable for anyone to take a poster's word for a definition while the dictionary is clearly the opposite of what you claim. are we confused on what it means to be on the right or left side of the aisle now? which films that make similar arguments to moore's draw anywhere near the level of support from liberals? moore has an incredible following from his self-promoting propaganda enterprise... if his support doesn't come from the left where does it come from? even if you believe the role of a documentary is independent of issues of bias, why is such clout earned by a man whose tenuous hold on presenting things evenly is so obvious? if his points were able to be made convincingly without such antics, don't you think he would make them that way? his support is undeniable... but it must be embarrassing that one of the biggest standard bearers on the left side is he. either they are blind to manipulation (and are unable to recognize and appreciate truth), or they recognize his failures yet are unable to find someone more fitting for their adoration (and dollars). moore's poor treatment of heston is just a single example of his poor respect for the truth. __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill Last edited by irateplatypus; 01-23-2005 at 08:39 PM..