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Originally Posted by Yakk
Lets suppose the US goes into a war in which the US is harming itself more than it is helping itself.
Opposing that war is treasonous?
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It depends on how you oppose it. Voting against the war isn't treasonous. Adhering to the enemy IS.
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Being of the opinion that the US should not be engaged in any war in which it is currently fighting is Treasonous?
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Once again, we're looking at ACTIONS, not opinions. In my book, attending an International A.N.S.W.E.R rally, giving them money, or aiding them in ANY way is treasonous, since they are literally a thinly veiled front group for the enemy.
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By this, do you mean 49% of the USA should be put to death for Treason? Or are you restricting the death penalty to the leadership of the party which you disagree with?
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To the leadership? Not all of it, just those "leaders" who actively appease and support America's enemies. Read Harkin's "Dear Commandante" letters for an example.
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I don't know if Ben Franklin was in favour or against A3S3 of the US constitution. And I'm not about to make shit up just to bolster my position.
It looks like you just made up the 'fact' that 'Ben Franklin had no problem with A3S3 of the USC'. Feel free to correct me if you actually have some evidence.
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So you're saying that Franklin OPPOSED ratification of the US Constitution? Then explain this:
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I doubt, too, whether any other convention we can obtain may be able to make a better Constitution; for, when you assemble a number of men, to have the advantage of their joint wisdom, you inevitably assemble with those men all their prejudices, their passions, their errors of opinion, their local interests, and their selfish views. From such an assembly can a perfect production be expected?
It therefore astonishes me, sir, to find this system approaching so near to perfection as it does; and I think it will astonish our enemies, who are waiting with confidence to hear that our counsels are confounded like those of the builders of Babel, and that our States are on the point of separation, only to meet hereafter for the purpose of cutting one another's throats. Thus I consent, sir, to this Constitution, because I expect no better, and because I am not sure that it is not the best. The opinions I have had of its errors I sacrifice to the public good. I have never whispered a syllable of them abroad. Within these walls they were born, and here they shall die. If every one of us, in returning to our constituents, were to report the objections he has had to it, and endeavor to gain partizans in support of them, we might prevent its being generally received, and thereby lose all the salutary effects and great advantages resulting naturally in our favor among foreign nations, as well as among ourselves, from our real or apparent unanimity. Benjamin Franklin, before the Constitutional Convention, 1787
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