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Old 01-23-2005, 11:45 AM   #17 (permalink)
Yakk
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by shakran
yes yes yes what if what if what if.
I'm asking questions about morality, and to a lesser extent legality. Please have the politeness to not stand there with your fingers in your ears, yelling "I can't hear you", when someone else is trying to discuss something.

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Originally Posted by shakran
Good, because treaties were just other vehicles to take their land from them. They used to have YOUR land, not the arctic lands. Unless you're prepared to give your house to the next aboriginal you see, you don't have room to talk.
Actually, a number of the treaties I've glanced at where decent deals for both sides. The aboriginals have rights above and beyond what I have. Hunting, fishing, government support, self-government, etc. People can freely enter into agreements, you know.

Some of aboriginals we sheltered from American oppression. Some of them we bought land from.

I'll admit Canada and the British Empire did treat some of the Aboriginals poorly -- and the government has a number of programs to recompensate for the harm done. Possibly they are insufficient. But they do exist.

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Originally Posted by shakran
Good, because treaties were just other vehicles to take their land from them. They used to have YOUR land, not the arctic lands. Unless you're prepared to give your house to the next aboriginal you see, you don't have room to talk.
Stop projecting American history onto Canadian history. The Canadian history of dealing with Aboriginals wasn't perfect, but it was different.

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Once you start holding the current generation responsible for the wrongs of all previous generations, you start down the path of chaos.
Sweet deal! Kill all your enemies! Steal what they have! Grind their children into slavery! Do it for your children, because even if you are morally sullied by actions, your children will get the benefits without any legal or moral ramifications.

Think of the children. Commit genocide now, so they don't have to.
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