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Old 01-23-2005, 11:23 AM   #15 (permalink)
shakran
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Originally Posted by Yakk
/shrug. In Canada, we are keeping or renegotiating our treaties with the Aboriginals, to the best of my knowledge. We just recently signed off half of or arctic lands (rich in good old fashoned natural resources) to the Inuit.

I never said the moral principle was cheap.
Good, because treaties were just other vehicles to take their land from them. They used to have YOUR land, not the arctic lands. Unless you're prepared to give your house to the next aboriginal you see, you don't have room to talk.



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Why should you benefit? Lets say that horse won a derby. Your ancient ancestor ended up with a gold bust done by a famous artist, as the prise for the derby. The bust was just found. Who owns it?
found? in the guy's house? It's his as far as I'm concerned. Look I could spend a lifetime researching my family's history, find out who had some wrong perpetrated on them, and then go after the wrongdoer's living family. If we get into that game, there's not one person who's ancestors didn't harm the ancestor of someone else, and there's not one person who's ancestors weren't harmed by the ancestor of someone else.

At what point do we say, let's dispense with the bullshit and get on with our lives?

if your great great grandfather killed the man my great great grandmother was going to marry, and that man was rich, should I sue you for the millions I should have inherited if the guy wasn't killed?

Once you start holding the current generation responsible for the wrongs of all previous generations, you start down the path of chaos.


As to whether it's fair or not, well. . .Life just plain isn't fair sometimes. The sooner people start recognizing that rather than expending most of their time and energy beating up on other people to try to make life a little more fair to themselves, the sooner we can improve our society by eliminating the petty bickering.

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And what if you have 2 million dollars you inherited from your father, in a bag?

What if you have 2 million dollars of gold you inherited from your father, that he bought using the money he robbed from the bank?

What if he spend the money to buy a business that you inherited?

The issues I'd have would be certainty and limiting the damages to non-guilty to not exceed the benefit gained from the crime.
yes yes yes what if what if what if. We can spend our lives asking what if and demanding the world give us everything we think we're entitled to, or we can spend our lives doing something useful with them. The choice is ours.
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