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Old 01-23-2005, 01:50 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Lebell
I usually don't bother with long winded replies in "Politics" these days, as many others are willing to take up the slack, but I will allow myself to be so moved now.

It is blatant hypocisy of the first degree to decree that America is full of "Stupid White Men" and that we have a gun culture that is propagated and perpetuated by the media and THEN hire ARMED body guards who don't even bother to know and follow the gun laws.

It is hypocrisy to complain that there are lax gun laws then hire body guards that don't bother to know and follow said gun laws.

It is hypocisy to claim to be a documentarian (documentaries by DEFINITION being things that deal with FACTS) and then create "documentaries" that twist facts, present out and out falsehoods, and character assassinate people and organizations by use of clever editing. That MM does so using an "aw shucks, I'm just an average Joe" persona only adds insult.

It is hypocisy that MM decries multimillion dollar coporations while he himself lives in a multimillion dollar NYC loft in an exclusive building.

It is hypocrisy that MM demands accountability from the president, saying that Bush lied to the American people to advance his agenda while ignoring the critics and the overwhelming evidence that MM himself has done just that himself.

And it is unfathomable to me that there are people that support this man when there are better spokespersons for their causes to be had.
I look to Moore for his slant on American politics and American society.
He is a filter of the slices of current events that he chooses to hold up
to the light of his camera.

I look to the President of the United States to lead. It outrages me when
I see the President mislead, and then fail to admit it, when the result is avoidable war of aggression that causes the deaths and maiming of
many young American troops and countless innocent Iraqis and other
foreigners.

I see Michael Moore as someone who shares my outrage. Michael Moore
has projected a message that is misleading at times. Moore has not
caused avoidable death and destruction on a very large scale.

You seem much more disturbed by Michael Moore's deception, even though
it is harmless compared to the deception of George Bush and his political
appointees. You seem to give Bush a pass for changing the reasons numerous times for the invasion and occupation of Iraq, and for his record of never
taking personal responsibility for the numerous miscalculations and
poor decisions he has made regarding Iraq, or for not holding officials such
as Rumsfeld, Rice, Cheney, Tenent, Gonzales, or General Myers accountable for their failures of administration or judgment in the performance of their
respective national security functions. Rumsfeld ignored advice from
State Dept. planners and some senior generals, resulting in the botched
post invasion Iraqi occupation, and is responsible for the Abu Grhaib torture
mess, and the avoidable casualties caused by lack of adequate body and
vehicle armor. Rumsfeld is one of only a few cabinet members asked by
Bush to stay on. Rice is promoted after presiding over pre and post 9/11
intelligence failures. She and Bush blame Tenent's CIA for faulty intelligence,
while both claim that they made no misleading statements to make the
case for Iraq invasion. Recently, Bush awarded Tenent the highest award
bestowed on a civilian for exemplary national service. Myers' competence
or lack thereof was made painfully clear in post 9/11 congressional
questioning concerning air defense readiness and response on 9/11.

Gonzales is promoted to AG after writing the brilliant legal opinions that
fronted for Bush's plan to act above and outside U.S. and international
law and the Geneva convention. Neither Bush nor Gonzales admit any
misstep in seeking to justify unprecedented harsh and arbitrary treatment of
those captured in Bush's war on terror, despite what has been uncovered
concerning the Bush sanctioned torture of prisoners held in "off shore"
locations, at the hands of U.S. military and intelligence sub-contractors and
by surrogates in foreign intelligence services and locations.

Lebell, I'm at least as bothered by many of Moore's critics apparent lack of concern regarding the issues I described here related to Bush and his appointees, and the resultant consequences, <br>unfolded and unfolding, disclosed and to be disclosed, as many of Moore's critics are concerning the productions, deeds, and statements of Michael Moore.

The points you have made on this thread have influenced me to take a
closer and more critical look at Moore and his BFC production. I'll also
continue to offer linked info from mainstream sources related to Bushco
deficiencies in judgment and execution:
Quote:
Gas and electricity shortages enervate Iraq
War-torn nation struggles with energy crisis amid unusually cold winter
By Colin McMahon
Chicago Tribune
Originally published January 16, 2005
BAGHDAD - If Iraq's vote is about delivering power to the people, average Iraqis can only hope elections work better than the nation's energy system.

More than 20 months after the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime, Iraq is shrouded in a different kind of darkness. Insurgent sabotage, faulty electrical equipment and maintenance problems are robbing the nation of heat and light. Gasoline lines stretch for miles. Generators sit idle. Even cooking gas is scarce.

Electricity output is down about 20 percent from before the war and down a third from its high of a few months ago, despite more than $500 million in investment by the United States. For more than a month, the average Baghdad resident has been getting about one hour of electricity followed by 10 hours of blackout, though things improved this week after interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi has promised changes.

Gasoline on the black market - three jerrycans, no waiting - costs more in oil-rich Iraq than it does in the high-tax, environmentally conscious nations of Western Europe.

People don't know whether to be baffled or enraged.

"I can't believe the government can do nothing to solve this crisis," said Sabah Abed Mouslih, 42, who was waiting in line for gas for his taxi last week.
<a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.iraqvote16jan16,1,3043758.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true">http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.iraqvote16jan16,1,3043758.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true</a>
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