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Old 01-21-2005, 10:50 AM   #19 (permalink)
daswig
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Originally Posted by The_Dunedan
Yes, in fact, I was; you'll recall however that this was prior to you giving an explanation as to how you came to own such a now-valuable stash of weaponry.
And why do I have to explain why or how I own stuff? And believe it or not, the guns were "valuable" when I bought them. The fact that they've appreciated with time is irrelevant. Yeah, I know that they are expensive now, but they're much cheaper now than they'll be in 2015. So why aren't you buying them? You can get a Mac for what I paid for my '34 when I bought it... and in 10 years, it'll be going for what my '34 is going for now. My excuse is that I don't have any more rooms in the safes (and to be honest, I couldn't list more than 80% of the contents of the safes now without consulting my stack of Form 3s and 4s), and getting another safe to store more guns in would be...well...."excessive". What's your excuse?

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I'd appreciate it if you'd not put words in my mouth, as well. I never said anything remotely like "I hope I get a chance to shoot cops." If you'll check above, I specifically said that I -didn't- want to shoot cops. And for the record, any attempt to divest me ( or you ) of our Rights ( including the right to criticise whomever we like, whenever we like, however we like ) would be unConstitutional, and therefore Unlawful. Therefore, resistance to such an unlawful act would, in fact, be lawful. Contrary to your apparent wishes, we are not governed by UCMJ ( although we're sadly getting closer every day ).
I suggest you read the law regarding slander and libel before you say we can "criticize whomever we like, whenever we like, however we like". I think that the First Amendment doesn't quite go as far as you think it does. I'm sure the Rosenbergs felt that they had a constitutional right to disseminate information the way they did, but they both still justifiably ended up in the gas chamber for it, regardless of the First Amendment. As I'm sure you know, the rules of this website prohibit posting of pictures of children, ANY children. While I can't speak for the admins, I'm relatively sure it's because child pornography is very, very illegal, regardless of the First Amendment, and because of the various "adult" areas, they're being safer rather than sorry, which is a very pragmatic approach, which I applaud. And as the famous OWH quote goes "You cannot falsely yell 'FIRE' in a crowded theater." You also might want to read up on Eugene Debs, and how he came to spend time in prison for speaking to the "party faithful" during his Presidential campaign.

If you ever shoot a cop for carrying out what you see as an "unlawful" order or law, you MUST realize that if you make it into custody alive, you're going to spend the rest of your life in a cell right next to people like the "Freemen" from Montana. Well, right up to the point that they stick the needle in your arm...But don't take my word for it, just go to your local psychic and ask Tim McVey...or that guy who formed a corporation and then shot the cop, on the theory that he was acting for the corporation and not himself, so he wouldn't be punished, but the corporation would be...

As for not being punished under the UCMJ, well, Lincoln said what he said and did what he did far before the UCMJ existed. Vallandigham was NOT in the military. And it still happened.
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