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Mephisto, the people on Hammer's side of the argument are counting....COUNTING on destroying Bush's and the American People's will to win. They know that they can't defeat us militarily, so they encourage the insurgents to adopt the most horrible methods to try and convince the American people that it's just not worth it. It's Vietnam all over again. Giap stated (I'm paraphrasing here) that he knew that the war was militarily lost, but people like John Kerry and Jane Fonda were his one great hope, that they could "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" for America, and so all Giap had to do was keep the heat on and wait. It worked then, and now the "Hate America no matter what they do" crowd is trying to do it again.
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