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Originally Posted by OFKU0
It's interesting the mindset here. Automatically, without question, these men are the bad guys, the terrorists. Would it be so uniquely impossible that some of these men are innocent? In your eyes,...well I know the answer.
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Impossible? no. Unlikely? yes. You must remember that civil law (and therefore civil standards of proof) does not apply in a war zone.
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Maybe if you were a suspected terrorist, and were captured by Iraqi forces, and treated to the same humiliation,..would you approve? Afterall, one man's terrorist is another man's terrorist. Hmmm,..walk on the other side of the street once in a while, you might gain a little insight into something called humanity. But afterall, this is no big deal to you. You apparently revel in such ignorances by choice.
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I wouldn't be doing the kind of things that these people got caught doing. I'm sure that if I was in a PMITA prison for being a serial child rapist, it'd well and truly suck. However, for a serial child rapist, that kind of situation is "getting off light", compared to what true "justice" would have been.
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But getting back to something of more substance, I have to believe there is a fundemental breakdown in the training of military personnel. The U.S, British and Israeli units to name a few have all denegrated military honour by crossing the threshold of idiocy.
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It's not a matter of training, it's a matter of being assigned duties which are not consistent with their purpose. The reason the military exists is to kill people and break stuff when ordered to. Their job is NOT to be "peacekeepers" or jailers.
The military can be exceedingly brutal. That's part of the job description. But the pictures I've seen (in both "scandals") PALE in comparison to what people in the military do to EACH OTHER on a routine basis. Anybody who has been "pinned" knows exactly what I'm talking about.