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Old 01-16-2005, 10:32 PM   #19 (permalink)
Mephisto2
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Point in case we have advanced, they haven't, a woman tries to read she gets stoned.
Where does this happen (apart from Taliban Afghanistan which is now defunct)?

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Nazi Germany was not Christian, National socialism seeked to subdue and replace the all religion,
This is just untrue. Let me know if you want references.

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I do expect nations to offer formal notices of condolences in light of a massive tragedy like 9-11, I also expect governments to come out and condemn said actions when you got there citizens taking to the streets cheering.
I think most countries did condemn it. Maybe I missed something, but as far as I know the only ones who didn't were Iraq and maybe Iran?

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Again, I am always perplexed when people try and mention Hitler and Nazi Germany as an example of a Christian country, there is no parallel between Hitler and Germany as a Christian country compared to a country like Saudi Arabia or Iran as a Muslim. Hitler persecuted Christians, do you know what happened to the Poles? Hitler seeked to completely remove religion, his notion was exactly like Communism, it was all about the state, religion was the biggest obstacle, if anything Christianity was the obstacle.
Again, this is just wrong.


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I agree in that I don't think religious leaders should be allowed to rule a country.
Leaders who are religous? Or religious leaders?

Two quite seperate things.

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I didn't call them ignorant of the issues, I said some are willingly ignorant, cutting their nose to spite their faces, in regards to just how undemocratic, unamerican, pro-terrorist the Muslim world really is.
Many Muslim countries are anti-Amercian, the same way that Amercia is anti-Muslim. It's quid pro quo.

And how can you describe Muslim countries as unAmerican? Of course they are. America supports the illegal occupation of Palestine by Israel. They are bound to resent that.

A lot of the Muslim antipathy towards America can be traced back to (for want of a better term) "self esteem". And American actions only go to emphasize and exacerbate these problems. It's just a fact of life.

Mr Mephisto


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