Thread: why carry?
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Old 01-15-2005, 03:21 AM   #110 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by kel
Carrying a weapon decreases the odds of you becoming a victim, but it also decreases the odds of walking away from an encounter unscathed. Escalating the situation to involve lethal weapons, does it truly make you safer?


You can bring studies which cite sources. For instance a study that investigates nationwide police reports comparing incidents where the victim was armed and incidents where the victim was unarmed. Statistically, was the armed victim more likely to walk away unscathed?
It's a black and white yes or no answer.
The muddy part is that each side of the issue tends to pick reports and incidents in favor of their view of the issue. But if you can find an impartial

As for the womans proper response?
Scream really loud... run... Break out the mace! Really, mace is amazing stuff, I got a full facial with it a while back becuase someone in my highschool though it would be funny to do it right before the big game. Was an incredible experience to say the least. This was back when I was 15. Barring any of those being safe options. Well life isn't fair.

You do realize that mace is often completely ineffective against people who have been doing drugs, or who have repeatedly been exposed to it in the past, right? Mace no longer fazes me. Yeah, it hurts, and it degrades my physical performance by 5-10%, but it certainly doesn't incapacitate me or a lot of other people who have been through the various kinds of training (military/LEO) that I've been through. For that matter, it loses its effectiveness against serial attackers who have been hit repeatedly with it.

As for a study that shows that people who defend themselves with guns are more likely to make it home OK than people who don't, I direct your attention to :

US. Dept of Justice
Office of Justice Programs
Bureau of Justice Statistics
Crime Data Brief
Handgun Victimization, Firearm Self-Defense, and Firearm Theft
April 1994
NCJ 147003
Guns and Crime
By Michael R. Rand, BJS Statistician.

In particular, the statement "A fifth of the victims themselves armed with a firearm suffered an injury, compared to almost half of those who defended themselves with with weapons other than a firearm or who had no weapon."
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