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Originally Posted by kel
Ay, and therein lies the rub. It is very unclear whether Joe-handgun-carrier is better off. There is the argument worth entertaining that if you give up your wallet, get raped etc. that no one will be killed. You might even argue that bringing a gun into the situation escalates it to lethal force and only makes things worse. This is based on the belief that most criminals are not interested in killing or harming their victims. Determining what is really the case requires accurate statistical analysis that really isn't possible on the data available (police reports).
It's all an ugly numbers game that no one plays fair. Or at least that's my take on the issue.
To carry or not to carry that is the question. Whether tis better to suffer...
Yadda yadda you know the rest
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I read this thread at warp speed, so I apologize if I'm repeating something that was said earlier.
That disclaimer over with, hasn't anyone posted Gary Kleck's research from 12 years ago? I thought things had been so clearly documented that this wasn't even being argued anymore.
Anyway, "Gary Kleck is a Liberal. He is, by his own admission, a member of the ACLU, Amnesty International, Independent Action, Democrats 2000, and Common Cause, among other politically liberal organizations. He is a life-long registered Democrat, as well as a regular contributor to Democratic Party candidates."
He also said that Americans, using firearms, defend themselves from crime between 800,000 to 2.5 million times a YEAR.
I'm not sure if he's still there, but he
was a professor in the School of Criminology and Criminal Justice at Florida State University in Tallahassee.
Isn't criminology the field in which Smooth is pursuing a PhD?
Oh yeah. I've defended myself with a pistol twice. I didn't have to fire it, but I would have.