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Well for a decent discussion it is on you. Telling us you've read a "dozen or so books" doesn't mean jack to me, especially when you don't put forth any of the idea's mentioned in said books. I'm assuming you're relatively new here seeing as to you have a rookie tag, I'm not trying to harp on you for that p.s., just for future reference and application, it would be nice if you are trying to get into a thread such this you interject more then "this is wrong, revisionist history etc." maybe tell us why, cite some sources, throw an article out there you found yourself.
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