Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community - View Single Post - More confederacy debate, and now it's right across the lawn

ShaniFaye · 01-07-2005, 04:42 AM

scout and sob, thank you very much for your comments.

smooth, first off...I didnt take offense to you, I admit I got aggravated..but not offended, which is why I tried to expand what I was saying. (and no Im not for slavery and Im not a racist)

SO many people have never taken the time to learn the out lying causes of the war, and dont realize that some of the issues had been going on for 40+ years before we seceeded and then were fired upon at fort sumter by the north, but yet want to make blanket statements about things that I get hot headed.

I used to do re-enacting, I havent in many years, and its Bill O'Rights, not lebell (just so we have the fact straight) that is also into it.

I wouldnt say that my attachement is ALL "emotional", I am from South Carolina, was raised in the south by southern women and shown by example the "honor" of being in the south, so its more a way of life and upbringing, than emotional.

Growing up we children were taken to cemetaries to clean the graves and mourn the loss of the confederate dead, we were told stories passed down of the "bravery" and "honor" of those men, when we got old enuff the girls joined the UDC to perpetuate the living memorial of the confederate dead and did things to raise money for things like new gravestones, keeping graveyards clean etc.

The "confederates" that the UDC memorializes were not necessarily thought of as the ones doing something "illegal". Do you really think that dirt poor farmers, most of whom couldnt read or write and any idea of the legalities of the war? It is THOSE people that confederate memorials are aimed at (well...I should say the majority of the memorials..of course there were pompous ass slave owning cover their asses politicians that are lumped in that group as well).

the mid 1800's were a totally different time from now, just as it was during the 1700's. The revolutionary soldiers were not that much different from the confederates. The were protesting rule by an over bearing government. A lot of people were tried for treason against King George because they fought on the American side to break away from the tyrannical leadership of the British, they wanted to form their own governement as well, yet they are almost always considered heros in history, not criminals. If this were a battle between the university and the DAR (Daughters of the Revolution) (which I am also a member of) over some dorm that had the name Sons Of Liberty and they wanted to change it so as not to "offend" students from the UK that they might want to attract.....would people be telling the DAR to get over it? Not like they do when it comes to something "confederate", even though when it comes down to it in a lot of ways some of the reasons for the war were the same.

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ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	scout and sob, thank you very much for your comments. smooth, first off...I didnt take offense to you, I admit I got aggravated..but not offended, which is why I tried to expand what I was saying. (and no Im not for slavery and Im not a racist) SO many people have never taken the time to learn the out lying causes of the war, and dont realize that some of the issues had been going on for 40+ years before we seceeded and then were fired upon at fort sumter by the north, but yet want to make blanket statements about things that I get hot headed. I used to do re-enacting, I havent in many years, and its Bill O'Rights, not lebell (just so we have the fact straight) that is also into it. I wouldnt say that my attachement is ALL "emotional", I am from South Carolina, was raised in the south by southern women and shown by example the "honor" of being in the south, so its more a way of life and upbringing, than emotional. Growing up we children were taken to cemetaries to clean the graves and mourn the loss of the confederate dead, we were told stories passed down of the "bravery" and "honor" of those men, when we got old enuff the girls joined the UDC to perpetuate the living memorial of the confederate dead and did things to raise money for things like new gravestones, keeping graveyards clean etc. The "confederates" that the UDC memorializes were not necessarily thought of as the ones doing something "illegal". Do you really think that dirt poor farmers, most of whom couldnt read or write and any idea of the legalities of the war? It is THOSE people that confederate memorials are aimed at (well...I should say the majority of the memorials..of course there were pompous ass slave owning cover their asses politicians that are lumped in that group as well). the mid 1800's were a totally different time from now, just as it was during the 1700's. The revolutionary soldiers were not that much different from the confederates. The were protesting rule by an over bearing government. A lot of people were tried for treason against King George because they fought on the American side to break away from the tyrannical leadership of the British, they wanted to form their own governement as well, yet they are almost always considered heros in history, not criminals. If this were a battle between the university and the DAR (Daughters of the Revolution) (which I am also a member of) over some dorm that had the name Sons Of Liberty and they wanted to change it so as not to "offend" students from the UK that they might want to attract.....would people be telling the DAR to get over it? Not like they do when it comes to something "confederate", even though when it comes down to it in a lot of ways some of the reasons for the war were the same. __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!* Last edited by ShaniFaye; 01-07-2005 at 04:44 AM..