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Originally Posted by powerclown
Well, no I didn't mean the literal analogy of 40 years until success in Iraq is quantifiable, just that it's way too early in the game to tell whats going to happen. History has shown that no 'successful' society was born 'overnight', or without war and violence to temper it into stability. So who knows about Iraq. The only thing one can say, at this point, is an attempt at Change is being made. All else is speculation.
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No. That would be to ignore the initial measuring stick of success. We were given that. It was hugely off the mark. So, you're welcome to state that if we throw out everything that was stated about how this war would unfold and work from a position of absolute ignorance, yes - no one knows what will happen. But that is not the reality we have had and continue to have. A position of pure ignorance, as you desire, affords the ability to never judge - the war is always acceptable because it is never approaching or achieving failure because there is nothing to judge it by. You cannot wage a war from that position unless you do not care about the consequences.
This war, as measured according to the initial claims, is an utter failure. This war, as reviewed over the past year is getting worse. Only from your position of intentional blindness could one claim otherwise.