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roachboy · 01-05-2005, 02:43 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...383333,00.html

i do not see anything good on the horizon in iraq for the americans.
it is really unclear whether the "elections" on the 30th can possibly go forward, which is really quite a damaging possibility at the symbolic level.

the two main lackies of american policy in this context--blair and allawi--have both expressed their support for going ahead with the elections no matter how absurd the undertaking. however, as the guardian article points out, this is becoming an increasingly unlikely scenario. but we'll see.

i suspect the logic behind this is like that of the "hand-over of sovereignty"--set up a puppet regime and repeat for an extended period that this puppet regime represents national sovereignty and maybe somewhere someone will believe it. looks like most of those people live in the states and watch alot of tv. but no matter.

the resistance is getting bigger, not smaller, more violent not less....the war--which is still ongoing (the term insurgency seems to me meaningless)--- is intesifying, not diminishing....the only thing i see that looks sure is alot more people are going to end up dead.

on this, i suppose you could adopt the "long view"----but i find that this "long view" is little more than a rationalization the primary function of which is to enable a disregard of information in the shorter term and continued support for this sorry, misbegotten undertaking more generally--i dont see much in "the long view" beyond avoidance.

besides, i think it was keynes who once said "in the long run we are all dead"

01-05-2005, 02:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...383333,00.html i do not see anything good on the horizon in iraq for the americans. it is really unclear whether the "elections" on the 30th can possibly go forward, which is really quite a damaging possibility at the symbolic level. the two main lackies of american policy in this context--blair and allawi--have both expressed their support for going ahead with the elections no matter how absurd the undertaking. however, as the guardian article points out, this is becoming an increasingly unlikely scenario. but we'll see. i suspect the logic behind this is like that of the "hand-over of sovereignty"--set up a puppet regime and repeat for an extended period that this puppet regime represents national sovereignty and maybe somewhere someone will believe it. looks like most of those people live in the states and watch alot of tv. but no matter. the resistance is getting bigger, not smaller, more violent not less....the war--which is still ongoing (the term insurgency seems to me meaningless)--- is intesifying, not diminishing....the only thing i see that looks sure is alot more people are going to end up dead. on this, i suppose you could adopt the "long view"----but i find that this "long view" is little more than a rationalization the primary function of which is to enable a disregard of information in the shorter term and continued support for this sorry, misbegotten undertaking more generally--i dont see much in "the long view" beyond avoidance. besides, i think it was keynes who once said "in the long run we are all dead" __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 01-05-2005 at 02:47 PM..