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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
The government may only be sending X amount of dollars, in the form of aid...but John and Jane Q. Public can always be relied upon to send exponentialy more.
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That hasn't happened yet. Jane and John Q Public are sending, worldwide, amounts on the same order of magnatude as governments are sending.
Currently JQP in the USA has spent/pledged less than the government as a whole.
"Exponentially more" -- I suspect you are being hyperbolic with your adjectives. Do you mean 10 times more? 100 times more? The amount the governments give, squared? Two to the power of the amount the government gave? An amount simular to what the government gave, increasing by 10% compounded every year? Or, just 'more'?
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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye
Damn it....the people need help....let countries give what they can/will and dont bitch about it, analyze it, compare it etc. I do NOT see why this tragedy needs to turn into a "lets see what countries are gonna do what, and lets see which countries we can trash for (insert stupid reason here) Quite frankly I am totally sick of the way these reports keep going.
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All Im trying to say is why cant we just help.....why do people have to say, well if you do such and such it will look good to so and so.
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Sure. Go and give 2 billion dollars. Yourself.
If it takes cold strategic analysis and comparison to get people to feed the hungry, yippie for cold analysis.
If PR is responsible for 2 billion life saving dollars, then push PR. All the warm fuzzy feelings in the world won't save those lives. Convincing people to give up billions upon billions of dollars in order to prevent death and suffering is an end that enobles -- not justifies -- pedestiran means.
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Originally Posted by OFKU0
I heard on CNN that Jeb Bush went with Powell but thought the milk in my cereal was a little off making me hear things. What is Jeb Bush doing there? Christ if they are looking for brownie points, why didn't the U.S send Ahnooold.
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Because Jeb is part of the Dynasty, silly. America's crown princes should be given exposure. (only half joking)
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Originally Posted by OFKU0
Yes the U.S is doing their part, as is the rest of the world but somehow it looks so fake. Yes I'm sure that the U.S like the rest of the world cares about this disaster, but I can't get over the feeling that this is a tradeoff to make the U.S look good in light of the war in Iraq. I think the 3 presidents charade the other day is proof of that. I can't wait 'til Robert Smigel animates his political spin on that one.
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If they are doing good to look good, more power to them. They are doing good.
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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto
However, as some members of this board have a habit of accusing me of being anti-American, I would like to repeat my opinion that I believe the US is leading the world in this effort (along with Japan).
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Actually, in many ways, the US is following the world in this effort.
If you are talking 'when they decided to give' or 'how much they gave' or 'how much they gave per capita' or 'how much they gave as a percent of GDP', the US isn't a leader.
They are at the forefront with the other rich nations of the world. Canada, Japan, Germany, USA, Austrailia, UK, France, Denmark, China, Finland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Portugal, Qatar, Sweden, Ireland, Taiwan, Switzerland, Saudi Arabia and the World Bank.
(in USD, including annual debt relief, from the wiki)
EU governments: 1375: m 0.0124% of GDP, 3.0$ per capita (11050 billion PPP GDP, 456 million people)
Austrailia: 836 m: 0.146% of GDP, 41.8$ per capita (571 billion PPP GDP, 20 million people)
Japan: 500 m: 0.014% of GDP, 3.94$ per capita (3582 billion PPP GDP, 127 million people)
USA governments: 350 m: 0.0032% of GDP, 1.2$ per capita (10990 billion PPP GDP, 293 million people)
World Bank: 250 m
Canadian governments: 136 m: 0.014% of GDP, 4.25$ per capita (959 billion PPP GDP, 32 million people)
RoChina governments (Taiwan): 50 m: 0.009% of GDP, 2.27$ per capita (529 billion PPP GDP, 22 million people)
PRoChina governments (China+HK): 42 m: 0.0007% of GDP, 0.03$ per capita (6449 billion PPP GDP, 1299 million people)
Switzerland: 23 m: 0.013% of GDP, 3.29$ per capita (239 billion PPP GDP, 7 million people)
Arab governments: 20 m (??? PPP GDP, ??? people) (Qatar and Saudi Arabia)
edit: Added Japan, and following aside:
The USA is amoung the most generous nations in this disaster, it just isn't the most generous, or the leader, in any measureable sense.