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jorgelito · 01-04-2005, 04:07 PM

This is out of control. I'm surprised that so many "seemingly" conservatives/Bush supporters would actually support this kind of gross violation of Constitutional rights.

We can't just arbitrarily arrest people and throw them in jail without due process. That's just nuts. We'll be tossing everyone in jail.

All teenagers wearing trenchcoats and "look" like Colombine types, lock'em up forever.

All Pro-life supporters cause' you know, they blow up clinics. (domestic terrorism)

Hmmm...oh yes, all white males with crew cuts, shaved heads and have military experience. Oklahoma you know, can't be too safe. We would rather save lives than let these people running loose with their meetings and websites plotting against the government. Now who's left? (domestic terrorism)

Oh yeah, all white males with long hair, drive VW buses, vegetarians cause they're eco-terrorists. Gotta have order now. Can't have a bunch of hippie-liberal-environmentalists running around blowing up SUVs and stuff. (eco-terrorism)

Let's see....yes, cigarettes kill more people a year than all the terrorists combined. Whoa!! And we know where and who they are. Done deal, lock em up! (coprorate terrorism)

You know, the people in Afghanistan don't have uniforms, that's why they are in civilian clothes. Kinda like the Viet Cong. If they're shooting at you, then obviously they're the enemy. Catch them, they're P.O.W. We didn't have unis in the Revolutionary War either. We were farmer joes and what not. we didn't get unis til later.

As for Abe Lincoln being the only president making war on women and children, try every president that's ever made war. Women and children get hurt in every war. Especially, Johnson, Nixon, Vietnam era.

Just let the Feds do their job: collect evidence, go to trial ASAP. If they're guilty, lock'em up, if they're innocent, apologize and let them on their way.

We're the USA, We cannot, not stoop to such low standards. If we start acting that way, then THEY'VE won.

Once we talk about losing or taking away rights, then we've lost. I lost a family member in 9/11, I wouldn't want her death to be in vain. If we as Americans give in to this level of fear and irrationality, then they would have all died in vain.

As a person who spent 5 days in jail with no due-process (this is LA) just because I "looked" like someone else and was in the "wrong place at the wrong time"(unacceptable), I am alarmed by calls for further reduction of civil liberties.

I'm a good sport, I still love my country and believe in her ideals. I still have faith in government despite the flaws: it might not be perfect, but it's pretty damn good (pardon my language). I wake up every morning thanking God I am an American and that I wasn;t born in Mexico or China where they DO throw people in prison for no reason.

We're better than that (or so I thought).

01-04-2005, 04:07 PM	#117 (permalink)
jorgelito All important elusive independent swing voter... Location: People's Republic of KKKalifornia	This is out of control. I'm surprised that so many "seemingly" conservatives/Bush supporters would actually support this kind of gross violation of Constitutional rights. We can't just arbitrarily arrest people and throw them in jail without due process. That's just nuts. We'll be tossing everyone in jail. All teenagers wearing trenchcoats and "look" like Colombine types, lock'em up forever. All Pro-life supporters cause' you know, they blow up clinics. (domestic terrorism) Hmmm...oh yes, all white males with crew cuts, shaved heads and have military experience. Oklahoma you know, can't be too safe. We would rather save lives than let these people running loose with their meetings and websites plotting against the government. Now who's left? (domestic terrorism) Oh yeah, all white males with long hair, drive VW buses, vegetarians cause they're eco-terrorists. Gotta have order now. Can't have a bunch of hippie-liberal-environmentalists running around blowing up SUVs and stuff. (eco-terrorism) Let's see....yes, cigarettes kill more people a year than all the terrorists combined. Whoa!! And we know where and who they are. Done deal, lock em up! (coprorate terrorism) You know, the people in Afghanistan don't have uniforms, that's why they are in civilian clothes. Kinda like the Viet Cong. If they're shooting at you, then obviously they're the enemy. Catch them, they're P.O.W. We didn't have unis in the Revolutionary War either. We were farmer joes and what not. we didn't get unis til later. As for Abe Lincoln being the only president making war on women and children, try every president that's ever made war. Women and children get hurt in every war. Especially, Johnson, Nixon, Vietnam era. Just let the Feds do their job: collect evidence, go to trial ASAP. If they're guilty, lock'em up, if they're innocent, apologize and let them on their way. We're the USA, We cannot, not stoop to such low standards. If we start acting that way, then THEY'VE won. Once we talk about losing or taking away rights, then we've lost. I lost a family member in 9/11, I wouldn't want her death to be in vain. If we as Americans give in to this level of fear and irrationality, then they would have all died in vain. As a person who spent 5 days in jail with no due-process (this is LA) just because I "looked" like someone else and was in the "wrong place at the wrong time"(unacceptable), I am alarmed by calls for further reduction of civil liberties. I'm a good sport, I still love my country and believe in her ideals. I still have faith in government despite the flaws: it might not be perfect, but it's pretty damn good (pardon my language). I wake up every morning thanking God I am an American and that I wasn;t born in Mexico or China where they DO throw people in prison for no reason. We're better than that (or so I thought).