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Old 01-02-2005, 05:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
Willravel
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
It's called checks and balances guys, SCOTUS. Every suspect will be given a hearing to determine there status, where it goes from there...

Also willravel why don't you take that bullshit to paranoia because it is simply not true. This situation with gitmo and "illegal combatants" has precedents dating back more then +150 years. If you read up on the history of it, as well as the context and old cases you would know how it is possible for these guys to be held in such a fashion.

Maybe you guys should invest more in reality and less in Orwellian fiction.
"American citizens can be arrested and heald under this." So this isn't true? Have you seen a copy of the request from the CIA and the Pentagon, yet? Or are you just assuming that I am a crazy paranoid Orwellian? If you say I'm brining "bullshit" to the table, you had better be able to back it up (otherwise, you're attack is baseless). There are several reported members of the al-Qaeda who are officially American citizens. That means that, yes, American citizens can be arrested and heald under this. The "Orwellian" part of this is just how far this rule can and will be applied.

"...hundreds of people now in military and CIA custody whom the Government does not have enough evidence to charge in courts." What does this mean? This means that someone who aparently can't be convicted can be guilty before being given the chance to be proven innocent. There is not enough evidence to prove that they are guilty, so they might actually be innocent. Possibly innocent people being heald indefinatally. That's the bottom line.

EDIT: I will not apologize or be spoken down to because of my posts in Paranoia. There is a reason I post some of my stuff there. Everything in Paranoia is considered just that, paranoia. When people post in Politics, however, we should be shown the same respect as anyone else. When you stop being respectful in TFP, you cheapen it. Please don't cheapen TFP.

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