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smooth · 12-31-2004, 12:30 AM

I draw a distinction between the US government fighting against the Mexican army, or any other foreign army, and a group of US citizens taking arms against their nation.

To me, it's obvious that any actions taken by foreigners against our country is not treasonous, whereas US citizens trying to break from the union and wage war against it is.

If flstf's friend is a US citizen, then his comments are certainly treasonous in any commonsense understanding of the definition. Whether someone will prosecute him may or may not be a waste of time and resources--but it's not my call and the fact that he does or does not get charged doesn't detract from the fact that when US citizens talk about starting a revolution to overthrow the lawful government of their country, they are in treasonous waters.

Now all this is to say that when a person walks into a room displaying the confederate flag, what do they mean when they say it's part of their heritage?

A) Some people think it's a racially oppressive heritage.

B) Others say that it is not a symbol of racial oppression, rather it's a symbol of their general "heritage."

What is it a symbol of? The only other heritage it speaks to (that I know of, and so I'm asking for more reasons right here) is of a group of citizens who sought to overthrow the federal government's control over them and start their own nation. They lost that endeavor yet continue to use the symbol of their losing team to demonstrate the level of their persecution.

What exactly are you people proud of in that symbol?

12-31-2004, 12:30 AM	#121 (permalink)
smooth Junkie Location: Right here	I draw a distinction between the US government fighting against the Mexican army, or any other foreign army, and a group of US citizens taking arms against their nation. To me, it's obvious that any actions taken by foreigners against our country is not treasonous, whereas US citizens trying to break from the union and wage war against it is. If flstf's friend is a US citizen, then his comments are certainly treasonous in any commonsense understanding of the definition. Whether someone will prosecute him may or may not be a waste of time and resources--but it's not my call and the fact that he does or does not get charged doesn't detract from the fact that when US citizens talk about starting a revolution to overthrow the lawful government of their country, they are in treasonous waters. Now all this is to say that when a person walks into a room displaying the confederate flag, what do they mean when they say it's part of their heritage? A) Some people think it's a racially oppressive heritage. B) Others say that it is not a symbol of racial oppression, rather it's a symbol of their general "heritage." What is it a symbol of? The only other heritage it speaks to (that I know of, and so I'm asking for more reasons right here) is of a group of citizens who sought to overthrow the federal government's control over them and start their own nation. They lost that endeavor yet continue to use the symbol of their losing team to demonstrate the level of their persecution. What exactly are you people proud of in that symbol? __________________ "The theory of a free press is that truth will emerge from free discussion, not that it will be presented perfectly and instantly in any one account." -- Walter Lippmann "You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists." -- Abbie Hoffman Last edited by smooth; 01-01-2005 at 01:56 PM..