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Originally Posted by smooth
I offered a solution: Don't pat down law-abiding citizens.
We've been doing it so far our entire nation's history. If you feel so unsafe that you want to trade our hard-won liberties for some false sense of security, perhaps you should rethink your commitment to a free society.
I will cause a ruckus...and then what? Are you threatening me?
"Don't resist official intrusion into your personal life despite perfectly acceptable and law-abiding behavior."
That is a very weird attitude to be coming from a fellow "American."
Our nation's founders and its history are on my side of this issue. Evidently, someone is going to have to push this into the courts to see if they still are also on the right side of this issue.
Look, we could eliminate terrorism and even criminal behavior if we spied on everyone's activities and did random pat-downs throughout our cities. I prefer to live with crime and deviance if it means I can walk down the street without fear of being harassed by government officials or even private citizens (as if they somehow can't violate personal civil liberties, too).
I won't fly because it my civil liberties do mean that much to me. I can't even fathom how a statement could come out of someone who really believes in the ideals of this country.
It's really that simple.
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That's just it. Our liberties were won by our forefathers over 200 years ago. They didn't even have planes or Al Queda or suicide bombings or C-4 in the bottom of someone's shoes. Our nations founders did build the foundation for a great country but sorry, the "right issue" is that that was then, this is now. For someone to not recognize that change is a necessity of our Nation's growth seems a bit naive. Because of the threat that seems obvious to our country, we need to change how things have been done in the past to secure our future. I am sorry if you don't see that the U.S. will not suddenly become terrorist resistent, but it won't. Personally, I don't mind if a small percentage of my civil liberties have to be sacrificed so I may continue to enjoy the rest of the free life I live.
Am I threatening you? Calm down. If you cause a ruckus in an airport I think it is obvious what will happen. See how much of your civil liberties you still have when you are being escorted out of the airport by security.
And why be condescending? What is so un-American about wanting a safe future for myself and my family? I realize that the ONLY way for this to happen is if we continue to re-invent ways of combating those that want to undermine our freedoms. I am willing to have a pat down and a few extra measures put in place. This is reality.
It's really that simple.