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Originally Posted by water_boy1999
Mr Self Destruct says it more eloquently than I would be able. Thanks!
Look, if you put so much value on your civil liberties that you can't even do a simple pat down before entering the plane, then don't fly. Smooth: If you plan on making a ruckus, I say feel free to do so. In fact, do it at the airport and see what happens.
What gets me is the fact that we don't have all the answers. Some of you complain about how we are handling things post 9/11, yet none of you are providing alternative solutions for how we can better protect ourselves. Our government, as well as private corporations, have enacted "knee-jerk" solutions to provide as much immediate safety as they could with the given circumstances. If terrorists thought that they could use our airlines as WMD's again, then what makes you think they won't try it again if we don't secure our airlines? Remember the dude with the shoe bomb?
Simply put, if you don't like the way things are run, don't participate and don't bitch about it if you are not prepared to offer alternative solutions.
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I offered a solution: Don't pat down law-abiding citizens.
We've been doing it so far our entire nation's history. If you feel so unsafe that you want to trade our hard-won liberties for some false sense of security, perhaps you should rethink your commitment to a free society.
I will cause a ruckus...and then what? Are you threatening me?
"Don't resist official intrusion into your personal life despite perfectly acceptable and law-abiding behavior."
That is a very weird attitude to be coming from a fellow "American."
Our nation's founders and its history are on my side of this issue. Evidently, someone is going to have to push this into the courts to see if they still are also on the right side of this issue.
Look, we could eliminate terrorism and even criminal behavior if we spied on everyone's activities and did random pat-downs throughout our cities. I prefer to live with crime and deviance if it means I can walk down the street without fear of being harassed by government officials or even private citizens (as if they somehow can't violate personal civil liberties, too).
I won't fly because it my civil liberties do mean that much to me. I can't even fathom how a statement could come out of someone who really believes in the ideals of this country.
It's really that simple.