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How is demanding that corporations that get tax abatements (for the sole purpose I described above) and or tax breaks to create jobs social welfare????? It's called bettering the area's economy. It was the GOP's grand idea of the 80's. It was the original conservative movement's idea. Now, those aren't good enough for you? You want more? Even if we can't afford more?

And you cry about how liberals want things too far left?

What I propose is government influencing the economy??? Yeah, the government must influence the economy and HAS since the early 1900's when fair labor laws, 40 hour work weeks, overtime, monopoly laws and many child labor laws were introduced. In doing so the economy grew, industry grew and a middle class became prominent.

Without government influence the days of share cropping, a 2 class society would exist.

States and communities if you haven't noticed are starting to realize that tax abatements and breaks don't work. Companies either transfer the jobs overseas or pay wages that in no way help the tax base.

You may not buy into the rich are taxed too much but read other's posts, dealing with taxes. Most of them complain how the rich are taxed too high.

DO YOU HAVE A BETTER SOLUTION TO REDUCE TAX BURDEN WHILE INCREASING TAX BASE IN THE US?????

IT jobs are starting to go overseas. In 38 states the biggest employer is Wal*Mart.... how can we justify that?

When and where are the trade deficts going to end if we continue to buy foreign made goods? If this trade deficit is so unconcerning then why is China one of the biggest buyers of our debt?

1940 tv barely existed, I was talking more the 60's and 70's. And yes people lived within their means. But they also knew when they bought something it was going to last longer than 3 years.

True Capitalism just like true Socialism, Communism, and so on will not work either. It only provides for greed and refuses to reward the worker the way the worker needs to be. If true Capitalism worked there would be a growing middle class, there isn't now.

The only way to survive is to find a middle ground. Which is what I have illustrated above.

Illegal steel tarriffs? Yet China and Japan doing the same AND subsidizing their steel industry so that they can make it cheaper is ok? You are saying it is wrong for the US to do what other countries are doing to us? Bush had to protect our steel industry.

This is an economical warfare and China is winning.

Manufacturing is desperately needed by any country. If you do not produce your own goods eventually you will die economically. Because of trade deficits.

You tell me what is a better solution. You tell me what is middle ground that produces decent waged and benefitted jobs.

Taxes will continue to rise the economy will continue to go into the dumper until jobs that pay and give benefits are the norm. WHY? Because people will start needing better healthcare and demanding it. Without benefits and decent self respecting wages people will have to rely on government for their needs more. Thereby taxes on the rich increase.

What you are saying is people should take what the company gives them, be happy and shut the fuck up.

What you propose is the US should be content to let all industries implode over here and go overseas for cheaper labor.

What you propose is that government has no right to interfere with business, yet, government should give out corporate welfare.

You show no signs of compromise to better society, you show that you want things heavily in your favor and screw everyone else. It's economic suicide. It's also defense suicide. No factories no industries, a low tax base that burdens the rich, and you set yourself up for having to rely on foreign made military supplies to provide your defnse. I'm sorry if I'm in a war I want to know that the ships, guns, missiles, technology, and so on are made by my home country and not a country that makes weapons for the highest bidder.

I'm sure in WW2 we didn't go to Japan or Germany and beg them for weapons so that we could fight them. Yet, if we allow China to destroy our steel industry and we keep shipping jobs overseas that will happen.

War is always inevitable. It has always been, People of different regions shall always argue it is in man's nature. And war isn't always bad, it has in the past always eliminated weaker societies and improved the world as a whole. It also develops more technology.

I am no war monger and someday perhaps there will be no need for war. But not in my lifetime. There will always be philosophical, religious and financial reasons countries go to war.

Right now we are in an economic war, and we are losing badly. Much like the USSR did. And until we realize that we must take care of our own country and THEN help the rest of the world, we will lose.

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