What determines success @ the QB spot? Trent Dilfer has a superbowl ring that says he was a successful QB, but I don't think he'd come close to your Montana criteria (nor would 90% of QBs playing today). Vick has time and winning percentage on his side, plus nobody wants another Joe Montana. Vick will be Vick whether you appreciate him as a QB or not and he'll play the QB spot his way. Instead of watching Roethlisberger film, he could find old reels of Jeff George. Wait, no.. nevermind.