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Willravel · 12-22-2004, 10:10 PM

Um, thanks faygo?

Neeways, time for an update:
http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10574

Aparently, those who are questioning the official report (those who have an inquisitive and skeptical nature, and are not insane conspiracy theorists) have some company. Jimmy Walter, a millionare activist, has say that he would pay $100k to anyone who could actually prove from a physics/engineering perspective that the pentagon and twin towers actually were damaged according to the official report.

"It wasn't 19 screw-ups from Saudi Arabia who couldn't pass flight school who defeated the United States with a set of box cutters," he said. He dismissed the official Sept. 11 commission report, saying, "I don't trust any of these 'facts."'

I thought that was intersting.

This next part is a commentary. It is a little rough, so only go in if you can take some critisism. Spoiler: I'm beginning to lose faith in a lot of people because of their readieness to believe whatever the government tells them. Before I started questioning what happened on 9/11, I was a republican who was devoted to my party and whatever it told me. As soon as I saw building 7 colapse, I knew it was controled demolition. When I heard the leader of my party say that it was a plane that caused this, I was heart broken. I had devoted myself to a group that is more than willing to lie to me for reasons that are still partially beyond me. People neeed to understand that this is not a theory. There is plenty of evidence that contradicts what was officially recognised as truth. Because of this evidence, there is reason enough to reopen the investigation into what really happened. Once radio contact was lost with the flights, why weren't jets immediately sent up ("scrambled") from the nearest military airport, something that according to the FAA's own manual is routine procedure? Why did the administration's story about scrambling jets change in the days following the attacks? How did building 7 collapse? How did the 757 that hit the Pentagon make an almost perfect 16 foot diameter hole in the 3rd ring with no visable wrekage and very little fire damage? Why are there no windows on the plane pictured hitting the WTC? Why are there reports from the heroic firefighters and policemen in the WTC saying that there were bombs going off when officially there was only one real explosion in each tower? There are plenty of contradictions that can be found by anyone willing to give reality a try.

So why are people defending the official story without question? Well, that's simple actually. People realize that the government and politics is something that is consistant in their lives, as well as being really complicated. It is something that people depend on and know only a small part of. We learn from the time we are in diapers to trust the government and that conspiracy theorists are crazy and should not be given the time of day because they are not patriotic. The problem with this? The government is run by people who serve themselves. They have agendas that run deeper than public service. The Haliburton question is an excelent example of how a political officer uses his post to serve himself (again, do your own research on this). When I ask people to consider what I am saying, and then proceede to question 9/11 - something that effected americans like very little ever has - people are sudddenly patriots with duty to disregard any possible fault in the governemnt. Every major political change in history has been carried out by citizens, the government is always the one to follow. The moment we start being led by the government is the moment the government stops being "of the people, by the people, and for the people". It's time for YOU to be a patriot. Thanks.

12-22-2004, 10:10 PM	#198 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Um, thanks faygo? Neeways, time for an update: http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10574 Aparently, those who are questioning the official report (those who have an inquisitive and skeptical nature, and are not insane conspiracy theorists) have some company. Jimmy Walter, a millionare activist, has say that he would pay $100k to anyone who could actually prove from a physics/engineering perspective that the pentagon and twin towers actually were damaged according to the official report. "It wasn't 19 screw-ups from Saudi Arabia who couldn't pass flight school who defeated the United States with a set of box cutters," he said. He dismissed the official Sept. 11 commission report, saying, "I don't trust any of these 'facts."' I thought that was intersting. This next part is a commentary. It is a little rough, so only go in if you can take some critisism. Spoiler: I'm beginning to lose faith in a lot of people because of their readieness to believe whatever the government tells them. Before I started questioning what happened on 9/11, I was a republican who was devoted to my party and whatever it told me. As soon as I saw building 7 colapse, I knew it was controled demolition. When I heard the leader of my party say that it was a plane that caused this, I was heart broken. I had devoted myself to a group that is more than willing to lie to me for reasons that are still partially beyond me. People neeed to understand that this is not a theory. There is plenty of evidence that contradicts what was officially recognised as truth. Because of this evidence, there is reason enough to reopen the investigation into what really happened. Once radio contact was lost with the flights, why weren't jets immediately sent up ("scrambled") from the nearest military airport, something that according to the FAA's own manual is routine procedure? Why did the administration's story about scrambling jets change in the days following the attacks? How did building 7 collapse? How did the 757 that hit the Pentagon make an almost perfect 16 foot diameter hole in the 3rd ring with no visable wrekage and very little fire damage? Why are there no windows on the plane pictured hitting the WTC? Why are there reports from the heroic firefighters and policemen in the WTC saying that there were bombs going off when officially there was only one real explosion in each tower? There are plenty of contradictions that can be found by anyone willing to give reality a try. So why are people defending the official story without question? Well, that's simple actually. People realize that the government and politics is something that is consistant in their lives, as well as being really complicated. It is something that people depend on and know only a small part of. We learn from the time we are in diapers to trust the government and that conspiracy theorists are crazy and should not be given the time of day because they are not patriotic. The problem with this? The government is run by people who serve themselves. They have agendas that run deeper than public service. The Haliburton question is an excelent example of how a political officer uses his post to serve himself (again, do your own research on this). When I ask people to consider what I am saying, and then proceede to question 9/11 - something that effected americans like very little ever has - people are sudddenly patriots with duty to disregard any possible fault in the governemnt. Every major political change in history has been carried out by citizens, the government is always the one to follow. The moment we start being led by the government is the moment the government stops being "of the people, by the people, and for the people". It's time for YOU to be a patriot. Thanks.