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reverendjay · 05-13-2003, 10:13 PM

Note to Bonesaw before getting to Halx's query: Robert Rodriguez was involved in both movies, crafting 'El Mariachi' by hand, and directing 'Desperado' as it's Hollywood-esque sequel/remake. Both movies succeed in their own ways, but you are right, you cannot compare one to the other without finding deficits in both.

Halx,

My friends and I have had this discussion many a time, and it always comes down to this... Would you still be able to believe she's a Nuclear Physicist after she takes the dick out of her mouth? Or after she's done screaming the Lead Character's name? IMO the best (almost) use of Graphic Sex was in American Psycho. Granted, Bret Easton Ellis had far different intentions for that scene, but it still served to illustrate the relative 'inhumanity' of Christian Bale's character. I think that until a story/script is written where a graphic sex scene can be used to vividly expose some facet of the lead character's personality or motivation, that you will not see graphic sex in a mainstream movie. The only other way I could see it happening would be an abuse/rape/deflowering scene which effectively transitions the character to the opposite spectrum of their personality. For instance the quasi-rape of Julia Roberts by her husband in 'Sleeping with the Enemy'.

I just can't picture a plot where any graphic sex scene could serve any other purpose. Of course, I've been wrong before, and I wouldn't really mind being wrong now... But that's my $.02, for what it's worth.

05-13-2003, 10:13 PM	#39 (permalink)
reverendjay Insane Location: Baltimore	Note to Bonesaw before getting to Halx's query: Robert Rodriguez was involved in both movies, crafting 'El Mariachi' by hand, and directing 'Desperado' as it's Hollywood-esque sequel/remake. Both movies succeed in their own ways, but you are right, you cannot compare one to the other without finding deficits in both. Halx, My friends and I have had this discussion many a time, and it always comes down to this... Would you still be able to believe she's a Nuclear Physicist after she takes the dick out of her mouth? Or after she's done screaming the Lead Character's name? IMO the best (almost) use of Graphic Sex was in American Psycho. Granted, Bret Easton Ellis had far different intentions for that scene, but it still served to illustrate the relative 'inhumanity' of Christian Bale's character. I think that until a story/script is written where a graphic sex scene can be used to vividly expose some facet of the lead character's personality or motivation, that you will not see graphic sex in a mainstream movie. The only other way I could see it happening would be an abuse/rape/deflowering scene which effectively transitions the character to the opposite spectrum of their personality. For instance the quasi-rape of Julia Roberts by her husband in 'Sleeping with the Enemy'. I just can't picture a plot where any graphic sex scene could serve any other purpose. Of course, I've been wrong before, and I wouldn't really mind being wrong now... But that's my $.02, for what it's worth. __________________ I'm married now, so the only thing in my house that pulls out now is the couch.