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pan6467 · 12-21-2004, 07:12 PM

On one hand you have people saying the taxes are too high (one reason could be we are in a war we should NEVER have started, but I digress) and on the other hand you have people saying the extreme wealthy pay too little.

I believe there is middle ground and that it needs to be found for the good of ALL society. We are seeing huge gaps between the wealth and the poor. People talk of Bill Gates and Warren Buffet and whoever but the vast majority employ more people overseas and ship goods here than they employ here and ship overseas. So where is the benefit for the US society there?

The problem is the jobs. Raise wages, get jobs back here and you build up a better tax base thereby taking the burden off the wealthy.

It is utter and complete bullshit, not to mention societal and economical suicide to NOT create better paying jobs and manufacturing in this country. Both greatly increase the tax base and the rich's burden is reduced immensely.

If Bill Gates decides he wants cheaper labor so he sends jobs to India, then he slices his own throat because he leaves lesser paying jobs here a lower tax base and increases his own. Same with every job that we send overseas.

So if they CHOOSE to send jobs overseas (or import cheaper labor) weakening our economy, then they have no right to complain when the government comes demanding they pay more taxes. If they cannot contribute to a growing healthy job base, then they should be forced to pay.

Another question results from this (maybe paranoid but one in this day and age needs to be addressed with terrorism prevelant), how do we know that this cheap labor in countries that do not like us will not load these products with hazardous materials. Throw something into a tv or computer so that when those products heat up poisonous gasses emit killing those using them.... microwaves that when used emit high doses of radiation that kill... or the product is set up to hit a certain temp and blow up with a radiation dirty bomb so to speak.

If people have more money and can spend more freely, they wouldn't have to look for the "better deal" from overseas. If you are making a little more you may spend a little more on a better or comparable computer built entirely in the US than one built cheaper overseas.

What we are doing now is buying the best we can with what we have and we are allowing the very countries buying up our debt, taking away our jobs to sell us cheaper goods.

It's a viscious cycle that if not ended, we truly will be a 2 class society with the wealthy paying ALL the taxes. I don't feel sorry for them at all either because they are doing it to themselves.

12-21-2004, 07:12 PM	#29 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	On one hand you have people saying the taxes are too high (one reason could be we are in a war we should NEVER have started, but I digress) and on the other hand you have people saying the extreme wealthy pay too little. I believe there is middle ground and that it needs to be found for the good of ALL society. We are seeing huge gaps between the wealth and the poor. People talk of Bill Gates and Warren Buffet and whoever but the vast majority employ more people overseas and ship goods here than they employ here and ship overseas. So where is the benefit for the US society there? The problem is the jobs. Raise wages, get jobs back here and you build up a better tax base thereby taking the burden off the wealthy. It is utter and complete bullshit, not to mention societal and economical suicide to NOT create better paying jobs and manufacturing in this country. Both greatly increase the tax base and the rich's burden is reduced immensely. If Bill Gates decides he wants cheaper labor so he sends jobs to India, then he slices his own throat because he leaves lesser paying jobs here a lower tax base and increases his own. Same with every job that we send overseas. So if they CHOOSE to send jobs overseas (or import cheaper labor) weakening our economy, then they have no right to complain when the government comes demanding they pay more taxes. If they cannot contribute to a growing healthy job base, then they should be forced to pay. Another question results from this (maybe paranoid but one in this day and age needs to be addressed with terrorism prevelant), how do we know that this cheap labor in countries that do not like us will not load these products with hazardous materials. Throw something into a tv or computer so that when those products heat up poisonous gasses emit killing those using them.... microwaves that when used emit high doses of radiation that kill... or the product is set up to hit a certain temp and blow up with a radiation dirty bomb so to speak. If people have more money and can spend more freely, they wouldn't have to look for the "better deal" from overseas. If you are making a little more you may spend a little more on a better or comparable computer built entirely in the US than one built cheaper overseas. What we are doing now is buying the best we can with what we have and we are allowing the very countries buying up our debt, taking away our jobs to sell us cheaper goods. It's a viscious cycle that if not ended, we truly will be a 2 class society with the wealthy paying ALL the taxes. I don't feel sorry for them at all either because they are doing it to themselves. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 12-21-2004 at 07:21 PM..